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all right here we go Linda Moulton Howe

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tonight mm-hmm

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always great when Linda is here it's

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been a while you know what's funny there

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are there's probably about 20 I'd say 20

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great guests that I could have on all

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the time in other words we only do 16

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shows a month right

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Linda is one of them where we could just

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do 16 guests and then just start over

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rinse and repeat the first of the month

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it does do it all again and there and so

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I went back and thought you know it's

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been a while since she was actually she

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had a couple of special things for us

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but as far as the the long-form

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conversations been a while since we've

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had Lynn down the show and Wow

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you know and it we we try to present so

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many new guests in fresh faces and and

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we're out there digging out there four

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four four little gems that things like

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you know Linda you know Graham Hancock

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and and and you know they they just get

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further and further apart but tonight

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Linda's back with us I'm very excited

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about that

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and there you go I go live here in a few

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minutes I'm in a much better place than

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it was last night believe it or not but

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more on that in just a second I go live

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right now see you guys in second enjoy

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this hope radio for the masses headliner

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between July 8 1947 the Army Air Forces

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has announced on applying this has been

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found and is now in the possession of

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the army the game is rigged changed the

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game changer I occasionally think how

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quickly our differences worldwide would

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vanish if we were facing an alien threat

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from outside his way

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fade to black with your host Jimmy

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Church on a game changer Radio Network

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I need your help to get to the year

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like with Jimmy judge on the game change

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in that word

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hey now

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that that baby right there in the gift

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right there from Pat that's me that's me

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right now that's me

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that's pretty cool fade to black this

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spoke radio for da masses yeah

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today's Tuesday May 22nd 2018

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just 141 days into the new year

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224 days left and I would like to

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welcome everybody listening all around

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the world all across the United States

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hither and thither to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south far and near

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this is fade to black for kjc are the

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game changer Network in kg ra the

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I'm your Jimmy Church what is cracking

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everybody how you doing Linda Moulton

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Howe here tonight I can't believe it's

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been a while it's been a while she's

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short bursts here and there but it's

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been a while since Linda and I have sat

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down and had the head the talk so we're

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gonna do that tonight we're gonna go A

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to Z artificial intelligence to UFOs and

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night George Noory is here Victoria

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Guevara --an is here also with some very

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special surprise guests so buckle up

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okay tomorrow night it's gonna be a

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would have had Linda here for tomorrow

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night but then I couldn't have had Linda

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here for tonight so there you go so you

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figure it out we were gonna have Linda

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tomorrow night but we're not who is

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filling those shoes yeah so you're gonna

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want to want to be here tomorrow it's

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gonna be a great show and then on

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Thursday Jon Rappoport is gonna be here

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no more fake newsroom live that's right

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open lines and we are getting close

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we're getting close to contact in the

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desert we are one week away so what

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we're gonna do next week by the way and

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but you need to understand next week is

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so Wednesday night will be our last show

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of the week and then we head out to

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taking Thursday night off and but we are

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broadcasting Friday night so you've got

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to get ready for that adjust your

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schedules okay and next Friday night

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we'll be broadcasting live okay

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now spent my day today over at on

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stellar you can now find me there I

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are calm that is where you need to be

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hanging out that is the social media

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platform of the future but it is

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happening now on stellar calm you can

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use the promo code Jimmy get yourself

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some bones tokens and what those mean

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with the blockchain and the token

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economy over time stellar will be using

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those soon so just get over start

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hanging out start writing invite all of

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your friends that's what you need to do

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get over down cellar it's absolutely

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amazing you can follow me on Twitter at

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Jay Church radio again very simple at

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Jay Church radio we can kind of go and

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check out Facebook I'm not accepting

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friends or are doing that anymore but

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you can certainly go and follow our

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radio page for Jimmy Church radio and

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that's over on Facebook and subscribe to

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our YouTube channel which is fade to

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black and that is easy to find fade to

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black and then when you get there if you

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do it off of our website you can just

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click straight to it but if you go to

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youtube is the one that says Jimmy

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Church official right so then you'll

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know it's the official page it's all

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simple to do okay now the sandbox is

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be on Twitter soon okay now soon did you

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happen to see the apology commercials

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from Facebook on TV now I don't watch TV

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link I bet you they're funny I bet you

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they're funny all right where am I

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hashtag f2b I see so when I say hashtag

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for the sandbox I immediately glance

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rolls through and it's just an amazing

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TweetDeck and that's what we use and you

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it's there in real time also we have the

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chat rooms hello everyone you see you

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they're on the phone they'll speak it

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Jimmy and Jimmy Church radio calm all

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right last night I spoke about Gina's a

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story and and and what she meant to me

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personally growing up and her and her

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father Mario and her sister Andrea the

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three of them you know let me in to the

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Sam Pirelli world and brought me into

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their family very very graciously back

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today and I thought okay you know here

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what do you do with that you know what

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do you do with that somebody that you've

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and stuff what do you do because her

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sister Andrea passed away her father

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passed away and and in the clan the

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all gone now you know what do you do

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can't do much but you've just got the

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memories and I was able to do that last

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night she passed away last night during

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the show and I'm just glad that I had

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the chance to do that and I want to

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thank all of you for just letting me

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take advantage of my little soapbox here

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in the bunker to share that but she did

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pass away last night during the show and

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she's left this earth okay there you go

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and and you know I'm looking at Scott

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saying no if you were part of Hollywood

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back in the late 70s throughout the 80s

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you were you know you were part of his

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early world it was everywhere and and

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Scott yeah he's yeah you know we're all

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we're all tripping because she was the

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nicest coolest funniest smartest

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professional rock and roll royalty and

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she you know she was just all of that so

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special to so many people and yeah today

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everybody's kind of freaking out because

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you know she was just cool so just thank

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you for allowing me to do that okay all

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right let's move on and Gina would

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know buckle up kids tighten up your

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actually in a great mood okay I'm in a

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great mood and don't forget to head over

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to HOD and stellar you're listening to

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my voice now you've heard me talk about

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on stellar for the last couple of months

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every single night as some more updates

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were done to messaging and some other

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stuff a very a very cool update

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tightening the screws it is it's an

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extraordinary place to go and hang out

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on stellar calm ons te ll a are.com you

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can use my promo code Jimmy okay get

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over there and get it done our next

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event is coming up next week it's June

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1st through the 4th contact in the

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desert Indian Wells Palm Springs at the

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Renaissance Resort and Spa of course

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Linda's going to be there she is with us

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tonight and you can go and hang out and

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meet Linda and go and listen to her

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presentations along with everybody else

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George Noory is going to be here

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tomorrow night he will also be at

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contact in the desert and then of course

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we have Victoria's gonna be here

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tomorrow night too as well and we do

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this every single year as we you know

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get ready for contact in the desert by

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bringing on some of the speakers here to

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talk about what you know it's like a

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preview of what is going to be going on

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out there and for those of you that

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can't make it to contact in the desert

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then you know we we get to share

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everybody with you and that's that's why

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we do it it's such a huge event and so

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you need to if you are in Southern

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California if you are making plans go

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and get your tickets now and and make

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your arrangements because this is the

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one event all year this is the big one

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this is if you're gonna make one event

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all year this is the one that you want

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to come out and and and hang out with

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all of us okay all right

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now last night we had a Theresa in our

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of these and E's all of these things

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I'm gonna retweet that that's uh that's

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there okay now let's get this show

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crackin today happy birthday to

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Morrissey Morrissey is fifty nine this

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myths Morrisey you know I this is the

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truth

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you've got your Eddie Van Halen or

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you've got pick up somebody modern you

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know you've got Michael Jackson you know

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you just whatever Bono you know it's

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Madonna

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you know just pick a name right

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Morrissey influenced just as many people

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out there as anybody else seriously

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fifty nine The Smiths uh oh man

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Morrissey today's fifty nine and this is

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for Rita Rita today Maggie Q is thirty

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nine

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alright I understand history OTD 1981

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police staking out a bridge over the

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Chattahoochee River near Atlanta heard a

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loud splash on this day and began

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chasing Wayne Williams as he attempts to

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drive away in a station wagon after

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questioning him about his involvement in

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the unprecedented string of 23 child

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murders in Atlanta over the previous two

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years

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Williams was released however he was

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arrested two days later when the body of

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named Daniel Carter was found in the

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river near the bridge where they heard

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the splash Williams was later convicted

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for two of the murders and 22 other

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cases were closed he was sentenced to

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life in prison

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happened on this day in 1981 Fader fact

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here we go fader fact the current

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library in Alexandria Egypt has a copy

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of all of the web pages on every web

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site on the Internet

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they got a copy of Jupiter's radio.com

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at the Library of Alexandria in Egypt

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now I gotta say that's pretty dang cool

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alright ah tonight very special guest

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Linda mole now she's gonna be with us at

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the bottom of the hour I can't believe I

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just smacked my lips and I smacked my

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lips because I'm drinking River moon

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coffee goodness that's good coffee

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so talking about Gina Gina Zeffirelli

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earlier and I was sitting here thinking

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today about rock-and-roll stories and

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everybody wants me to tell another

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rock-and-roll story and now and so I was

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thinking today I was going wow yeah I

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can't really do that one on the air

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can't do that one either

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that wouldn't you do on private but and

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I was thinking some of the cool moments

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right and I have I have a story here

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this might be the most rock and roll

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story I've got well it's not the most

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but it's definitely rock and roll and

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and it goes like this

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and and some I swear to you every word

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of what I'm about to say is true all

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right there's a guitar player here in

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Los Angeles his name is Michael Landau

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and Michael Landau is a studio cat that

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has played recorded for everybody but ba

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Skaggs Joni Mitchell's seal Michael

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Jackson James Taylor Richard mark Steve

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Perry Pink Floyd Roger Daltrey Glenn

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Frey Miles Davis right okay he's that

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great an amazing guitar player and he's

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played for another hundred bands that

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he's forgotten about and he is the

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guitar players guitar player and he's

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got a style it's very hard to explain

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boo but when he's playing the michael

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landau style

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it's like a combination of Frank Zappa

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meets you got to go crazy you got to go

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crazy talk

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meets Beetlejuice crazy style an amazing

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player not of this world

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great and he's the kind of guy that

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Steve Vai goes okay well you know yeah

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you know I play pretty good man but

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Michael and ow is a real guitar player

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Michael and Al's like that okay

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and so he's he he has a band the these

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to play a lot a little power trio here

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in Los Angeles called the raging

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hongki's and they recalled the raging

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hongki's and his drummer was is Abe

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laborious jr. and a blob or Al jr.

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you've seen play in so many different

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bands but right now he's playing with

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Paul McCartney's Sofia and he's been

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playing with Paul for a while but Abe is

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a big dude man he's a big guy and it's

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just one of the Maisie plays his

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drumsticks are like tree trunks plates

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with baseball bats and so forth anyway

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ain't a blue boreal dude a great power

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trio and so Michael calls me up and now

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we weren't best friends or anything like

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that we just became close friends for a

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couple of years and he you know we you

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know so anyway I came home wind it by

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phones rings dude men I'm playing the

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coconut teaser tonight put you on the

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list I said okay I'll be there all right

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so I pack up go to Hollywood and for the

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coconut teaser and the raging hongki's

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I'm gonna say there was probably 50

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people there now for the teaser for the

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room you know it's you know half-full

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right probably holds a hundred max down

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but anyway so I'm there and I'm standing

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uh-oh oh no let me back up so out on the

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patio before the show which is next to

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the stage there's a stage door that goes

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from

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patio you walk straight out on the stage

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and I'm out there you know hanging out

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with the guys and yeah you know drinks

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whatever and then so we go from there we

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go on boom they're playing and during

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the second song maybe the third song and

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I'm standing right in front of Michael

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with my arms crossed it uh just checking

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him out and he's two feet in front of me

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and he's just slaying I mean and he's

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doing this melodic long guitar solo and

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and but he's only like a quarter of the

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way through it and this is what happens

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he takes his guitar and he grabs the

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vibrato bar he's raging out on it

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holding the guitar up and it's right you

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know I could reach out and touch the

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guitar and he breaks a guitar string

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right he looks at his guitar

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and he looks at me in my eyeballs takes

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his guitar turns around and Pierce's his

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guitar amp he just get a head of the

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guitar into the guitar amp I was like

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what pulls it out Frank Frank ran

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Marshall 412 guitar Cabot's loses his

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mind and then he turns to me looks at

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the guitar and he turns to me it says

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put a new string on it and he hands me

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the guitar and I take it and I go over

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to the side of the stage he he had a

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backup guitar that apparently wasn't

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ready to play or whatever so he goes up

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and he's talking to the crowd and does

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this monologue and I run over and I'm

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going through his guitar case

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and this is no joke and and I got like a

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cigarette lighter on my

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friend Rob Cazares was with me I I find

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a pack of strings I thought I'd spring

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up the guitar I tuned it I cranked it

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out took me like five minutes and he's

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out there monologuing with the audience

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about the waitresses and drinks and life

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and whatever and I go back I hand him

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the guitar he plugs in the guitar turns

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it up like hits a chord it's in tune and

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that note and and and finishes the song

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actually he finishes the set and after

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that we walk out ok so then this is the

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funny part no no that was the funny part

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of the story extends so I go up on stage

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and I go up to Abe labora and it goes

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because he meant that was amazing we

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were laughing about it and Michael was

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pretty cool and I'm helping Abe you know

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we get all the gear out and I'm like a

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roadie all of a sudden and we get

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everything out and I'm and I'm talking

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to Michael off of the side of the stage

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and he acted like nothing happened and I

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didn't I didn't I didn't bring it up and

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my my whole point to all of this is that

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you have moments for me that was that

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was where you can die and go to heaven

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story and it was one of the coolest

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things that I could you know share with

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you but for Michael it was never talked

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about and and

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and Here I am sharing this story with

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you today he's so many years later I

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don't even know if he remembers it but

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it was one of those cool things now back

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to why this story is so important guitar

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players in Los Angeles and this is like

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this all around the world but it is

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really bad in Los Angeles and especially

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in the 80s and 90s when this happened

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with Michael in the 90s guitar players

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are everywhere really good ones are

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everywhere and so guitar players don't

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really hang out right don't really hang

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out not two guitar players it just

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doesn't happen and we go to a club and

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you go to see somebody like Michael

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Landau or whatever you you as a guitar

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player you stand on the back wall you

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know with your arms crossed and you're

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just like looking at the dude and you're

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stealing licks and you're doing all of

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that

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but if dude breaks his string and he

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needs your help the last string in the

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last thing Jordan just says which stream

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was the last thing you're gonna do was

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go and offer assistance you want him to

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break a string you just do and and there

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you go and I I was there the moment was

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right and it was it was a classic moment

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so if you ever get a chance go and seek

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out Michael Landau any of his stuff by

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the way

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online and listen to some of his songs

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and look at some of the artists that he

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has played with chances are one of your

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favorite songs I'm not exaggerating at

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all chances are you've heard him play

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quite a few times and he just didn't

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know it he is he's one of those guys and

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he is just an amazing guitar player in

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his cool moment and I just wanted to

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share a rock and roll story with you

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tonight as opposed to being you know the

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sad guy because I'm not alright so there

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you go let's get out of here let's get

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Linda in

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it's going to be a great conversation

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tonight Linda Moulton Howe tomorrow

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night George Noory is going to be here

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everybody tomorrow night George Noory is

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going to be here of Victoria Guevara ham

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is gonna be here and we've got a bunch

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of surprise special guests tomorrow

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night would have liked to have Linda on

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tomorrow night but then I couldn't have

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had Linda on tonight with me so my

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selfish ways I was like nah I want I

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want I want the full Linda tonight he

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run fade to black with all of you Linda

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Moulton Howe is here she's a graduate of

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Stanford University with a master's

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degree in communication she has devoted

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her documentary film television radio

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writing and reporting career to

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productions concerning science medicine

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in the environment miss Howe has

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received three regional Emmys a National

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Emmy nomination and a station Peabody

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Award among others linda has earthfiles

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calm of chorus but she also has her own

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radio program of john burroughs

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over on k gra she's on coast to coast am

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ancient aliens since its first season

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and she has a new series on gaia called

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truth hunters and this is my favorite

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part

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she has traveled to Venezuela Peru

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Brazil England Norway France Switzerland

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the Netherlands Yugoslavia Turkey

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Ethiopia Kenya Egypt Australia Japan

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Canada Mexico the Yucatan and Puerto

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Rico in addition to all of her research

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on Earth files Linda now has and tonight

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we're doing it all she has spoken all

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around the world and tonight we are

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going to cover so many different

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subjects that for her as a journalist

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are important to her and her pursuit of

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them so we're gonna do everything that

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we can tonight and we're gonna try to

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squeeze it all in we're gonna do our

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best because it's Linda Moulton Howes

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good evening thank you very very much I

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have had an astonishing life and it

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continues to be even more

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donning I don't believe that I have ever

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had so many interactions with people

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around the world on questions that have

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to do with are we alone in the universe

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and a kind of an astronomical mystery

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that persists that is going to be my

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opening lecture at the upcoming contact

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in Indian Wells what about these fast

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radio bursts that some people in the

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science community say it maybe it's a

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neutron are dancing with a coal and

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others including an interview that I

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have done recently with a head of the

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astronomy department at Harvard they are

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seriously Jimmy contemplating the

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possibility that fast radio bursts that

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no one heard until 2007 so this is a

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mystery unfolding from 2007 to 2008 een

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and ongoing nobody had seen or heard

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them but now what I'm going to say is an

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astounding statement and it will explain

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partly why I've had the life I've led

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because when I hear a sentence like what

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I'm going to say right I want to the

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bottom of it I want to know exactly what

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the truth is that's why I am a truth

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hunter and here it is these bursts each

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one that lasts only about 5 to 6

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milliseconds each way less than a second

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the energy is equivalent to 500 million

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times the power of our Sun what does

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that tell you yeah what is that

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what does that say to you million yes

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half a billion of our Sun what does that

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say well in the first in the two

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thousand back in 2007 their question was

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are we dealing with something

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astronomical

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and nobody could come up with what could

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produce that kind of energy in less than

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half a second and it's now known that

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it's one to three billion light years I

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think they're getting a consensus that

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it might be more three billion than one

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but it's a long long way away and when

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when I started following this and

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reading everything that I could about it

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and thinking back if you go back to

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right after the first headlines in

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science about the 2007 news in January

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of 2008 even channel through KTVU in San

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Francisco picked up on this and they did

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aborted

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they did they broke open in their news

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room and they said a mystery signal had

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been recorded by an Australian radio

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telescope would you

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they are the scientists that have been

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00:41:18,259 --> 00:41:15,539
seeing this and recording it and here is

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00:41:20,829 --> 00:41:18,269
such an interesting quote from where it

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started why it was a mystery why news

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great mainstream news cut mm-hmm cut

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their attention with this and they said

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quote across the globe

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researchers searching for signs of life

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in space were abuzz this week with word

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that a mystery signal has been picked up

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by a giant radio telescope and now the

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dilemma is how do you answer it and then

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there was the scientists at UC Berkeley

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and he said that dilemma is compounded

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by the fact that the signal may never be

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completely decoded and back then that's

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what they were thinking that this is

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some kind of communication and he said

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we probably won't be able to decode it

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will know something is out there but we

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won't know much about their civilization

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close quote

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that's how all of this began this is an

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intelligent signal this is coming from

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far away it is equivalent to half a

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billion of our Suns it probably is

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another civilization okay now jump

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all the way to January of 2017 and there

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00:42:36,279 --> 00:42:33,260
was more news repeating fast radio

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bursts and they had it closer to the

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distance 2.5 billion light-years from

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Earth and the question that was being

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raised this is just a year ago is this

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alien intelligence so I called up the

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one person that I thought might be

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willing to talk about this because he is

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also on the board of project starshot

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which is hopefully in another literally

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two three years we may send off

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artificial intelligence toward Alpha

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Centauri and if we do it's going to be

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another breakthrough with technology

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trying to reach out into the start

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looking for other life and this man is

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avi Loeb he's PhD he's chair of the

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astronomy department at Harvard and he

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is a delight to talk with and when I

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asked him for his opinion about what

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this could be

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he already had put together a paper that

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00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:49,369
he sent me and we ended up discussing

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00:43:58,029 --> 00:43:53,690
the paper his proposal his hypothesis a

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00:44:03,839 --> 00:43:58,039
year ago is that these huge vast radio

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earth could be the first evidence of

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light speed transport by other

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intelligences that is in a paper that he

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presented and was published now that was

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just a year ago in the last three or

811
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:23,359
four months other scientist has come

812
00:44:29,579 --> 00:44:27,170
forward and said no we don't think that

813
00:44:31,900 --> 00:44:29,589
we're dealing with light speed

814
00:44:34,299 --> 00:44:31,910
transportation no we don't think for

815
00:44:36,730 --> 00:44:34,309
dealing with the civilization we think

816
00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:36,740
we're dealing with some weird black hole

817
00:44:41,290 --> 00:44:37,280
new

818
00:44:45,610 --> 00:44:41,300
c'mon star combination but after that

819
00:44:48,580 --> 00:44:45,620
came out there was more more papers more

820
00:44:51,190 --> 00:44:48,590
scientists coming and saying all of the

821
00:44:55,180 --> 00:44:51,200
reasons why this needs to be studied as

822
00:44:58,570 --> 00:44:55,190
a possibility like avi loges proposal

823
00:45:01,120 --> 00:44:58,580
that it's the first evidence of light

824
00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:01,130
speed transportation one two three

825
00:45:07,150 --> 00:45:04,480
billion light years from the earth and I

826
00:45:10,630 --> 00:45:07,160
think that this is some of the most

827
00:45:15,090 --> 00:45:10,640
exciting material that is on our planet

828
00:45:20,110 --> 00:45:15,100
today to contemplate because in light of

829
00:45:23,260 --> 00:45:20,120
the wars in spite of the tribal violence

830
00:45:25,810 --> 00:45:23,270
in spite of feeling that everybody has

831
00:45:29,940 --> 00:45:25,820
that it's a revolutionary time and

832
00:45:35,110 --> 00:45:29,950
people are nervous about it the idea

833
00:45:39,370 --> 00:45:35,120
that we are maybe in Elon Musk if he has

834
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:39,380
his way we will be launching to Mars in

835
00:45:48,250 --> 00:45:44,330
2020 know beyond that ship doctor Loeb

836
00:45:53,020 --> 00:45:48,260
at Harvard he in the project starshot

837
00:45:57,250 --> 00:45:53,030
they want to take big lasers and get

838
00:46:00,610 --> 00:45:57,260
them aimed right at what they're calling

839
00:46:04,870 --> 00:46:00,620
a wave wafer WAF var wafer spaceship

840
00:46:07,770 --> 00:46:04,880
meaning small as he was explaining to me

841
00:46:11,230 --> 00:46:07,780
this he said think of your iPhone

842
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:11,240
anybody's iPhone think of how much it

843
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:14,810
can do what it can do and he said we

844
00:46:21,460 --> 00:46:18,170
just take that same kind of condensed

845
00:46:25,390 --> 00:46:21,470
and very advanced computer ability and

846
00:46:28,270 --> 00:46:25,400
we put a big intense laser or lasers

847
00:46:30,730 --> 00:46:28,280
aimed with photons on a shield that

848
00:46:33,790 --> 00:46:30,740
protects the computer and the artificial

849
00:46:36,550 --> 00:46:33,800
intelligence but we start moving it out

850
00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:36,560
and he said we may get to twenty-five to

851
00:46:42,190 --> 00:46:39,200
thirty percent the speed of light on our

852
00:46:46,180 --> 00:46:42,200
first wafers craft and they want to aim

853
00:46:50,450 --> 00:46:46,190
it to Alpha Centauri well if they got it

854
00:46:53,180 --> 00:46:50,460
Timmy to twenty to thirty percent of the

855
00:46:58,250 --> 00:46:53,190
speed of light if they might get there

856
00:47:00,410 --> 00:46:58,260
in 16 17 years right and and that would

857
00:47:05,329 --> 00:47:00,420
definitely be in the lifetime of a

858
00:47:08,210 --> 00:47:05,339
scientist and then as one of the men

859
00:47:11,210 --> 00:47:08,220
said we need somebody else out there to

860
00:47:13,970 --> 00:47:11,220
build some kind of a return so that we

861
00:47:16,339 --> 00:47:13,980
could get all of our information and get

862
00:47:18,790 --> 00:47:16,349
it back to earth barring that they will

863
00:47:23,390 --> 00:47:18,800
have to wait to get the data but

864
00:47:26,540 --> 00:47:23,400
professor load says imagine this okay so

865
00:47:28,820 --> 00:47:26,550
the first craft starts being launched

866
00:47:30,230 --> 00:47:28,830
toward Alpha Centauri at 25 or 30

867
00:47:33,530 --> 00:47:30,240
percent the speed of light

868
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:33,540
well then we launch in a few months

869
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:35,970
another one or a year and it's going

870
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:39,119
faster and then we get to half the speed

871
00:47:46,250 --> 00:47:41,450
of light then we get to three-quarters

872
00:47:51,020 --> 00:47:46,260
maybe we even get up to 75% the speed of

873
00:47:56,210 --> 00:47:51,030
light those successive wafer crafts will

874
00:47:59,780 --> 00:47:56,220
pass the first craft they will continue

875
00:48:02,570 --> 00:47:59,790
in an evolutionary reach out to the

876
00:48:06,410 --> 00:48:02,580
point that we might by the time that we

877
00:48:09,380 --> 00:48:06,420
are at 50% to 75% the speed of light

878
00:48:11,839 --> 00:48:09,390
sending a craft toward our nearest Alpha

879
00:48:15,290 --> 00:48:11,849
Centauri it's only four light-years from

880
00:48:17,329 --> 00:48:15,300
Earth that we will have some way to

881
00:48:19,550 --> 00:48:17,339
accelerate getting the signals back

882
00:48:23,359 --> 00:48:19,560
because what are we what do we really

883
00:48:27,589 --> 00:48:23,369
want to know is the rocky planet out

884
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:27,599
there Proxima Centauri is it possibly

885
00:48:33,079 --> 00:48:31,170
capable of supporting life now just in

886
00:48:35,210 --> 00:48:33,089
the lever things happening so fast just

887
00:48:37,700 --> 00:48:35,220
in the last three or four months there

888
00:48:42,050 --> 00:48:37,710
was a big story about the fact that they

889
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:42,060
have measured a huge solar flare from

890
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:46,290
the nearby star there's two binary stars

891
00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:49,050
and what they think is this rocky planet

892
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:51,599
and they're pretty much convinced that

893
00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:56,250
the huge solar flare from the Alpha

894
00:49:02,150 --> 00:48:59,280
Centauri system would have fried the

895
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:02,160
rocky planet that is the near as nearby

896
00:49:07,849 --> 00:49:04,170
and that might

897
00:49:10,819 --> 00:49:07,859
that that exoplanet could not sustain

898
00:49:14,780 --> 00:49:10,829
life as we know it could it sustain

899
00:49:19,030 --> 00:49:14,790
other life who knows but here we move to

900
00:49:21,950 --> 00:49:19,040
another increasingly discussed sort of

901
00:49:24,500 --> 00:49:21,960
shocking statement among some

902
00:49:26,599 --> 00:49:24,510
astronomers that I've talked to we've

903
00:49:31,099 --> 00:49:26,609
gone through I think it's over a

904
00:49:34,609 --> 00:49:31,109
thousand exoplanets now and we don't

905
00:49:38,599 --> 00:49:34,619
have an exoplanet that has all the

906
00:49:42,250 --> 00:49:38,609
conditions of our remarkable earth we're

907
00:49:46,190 --> 00:49:42,260
on a planet with two-thirds deep oceans

908
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:46,200
lots of seeds it's very dynamic you

909
00:49:49,730 --> 00:49:48,089
could call this an unstable planet

910
00:49:52,549 --> 00:49:49,740
because of all the volcanoes and

911
00:49:55,549 --> 00:49:52,559
earthquakes and the fact that it has

912
00:50:00,079 --> 00:49:55,559
been a snowball two or three times and

913
00:50:04,579 --> 00:50:00,089
goes through ice ages and that and yet

914
00:50:07,339 --> 00:50:04,589
and yet look at 7.2 billion Homo Sapien

915
00:50:09,620 --> 00:50:07,349
inc and Counting are on the surface of

916
00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:09,630
this planet and a lot work underground

917
00:50:15,740 --> 00:50:11,730
in the military and intelligence world

918
00:50:19,069 --> 00:50:15,750
we may have another earth that would

919
00:50:22,490 --> 00:50:19,079
astonish us below the surface if we knew

920
00:50:26,210 --> 00:50:22,500
all the truth nevertheless on this

921
00:50:28,250 --> 00:50:26,220
planet it has all of this water it has a

922
00:50:32,059 --> 00:50:28,260
strong magnetic field because of the

923
00:50:35,809 --> 00:50:32,069
dynamo that magnetic field deflects so

924
00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:35,819
many solar particles and helps protect

925
00:50:43,490 --> 00:50:38,880
this planet and we have all of this huge

926
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:43,500
variety of life and it reminds me of the

927
00:50:49,250 --> 00:50:47,010
first hypnosis session that I ever

928
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:49,260
attended when I was investigating the

929
00:50:59,420 --> 00:50:53,450
animal mutilations and heard an abductee

930
00:51:02,960 --> 00:50:59,430
saying under hypnosis that she got the

931
00:51:06,770 --> 00:51:02,970
impression that one of the things that

932
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:06,780
humans didn't understand was how unique

933
00:51:13,940 --> 00:51:11,130
and precious our planet is and that many

934
00:51:14,299 --> 00:51:13,950
many species of other intelligences have

935
00:51:21,459 --> 00:51:14,309
you

936
00:51:25,579 --> 00:51:21,469
thinking about the strange bizarre

937
00:51:28,489 --> 00:51:25,589
confusing history of our planet and we

938
00:51:30,979 --> 00:51:28,499
haven't even gone into all of the

939
00:51:33,499 --> 00:51:30,989
subjects that we can tonight having to

940
00:51:36,679 --> 00:51:33,509
do with harvesting of genes and

941
00:51:39,650 --> 00:51:36,689
manipulating genes and so many other

942
00:51:42,650 --> 00:51:39,660
subjects but when you start looking at

943
00:51:46,009 --> 00:51:42,660
the planet a something that might be

944
00:51:49,699 --> 00:51:46,019
more unique than we realize among all of

945
00:51:52,429 --> 00:51:49,709
the planets and that other civilizations

946
00:51:55,999 --> 00:51:52,439
look for place that they can mix and

947
00:51:59,150 --> 00:51:56,009
match genes for their own experiment and

948
00:52:02,179 --> 00:51:59,160
for whatever their goals are then some

949
00:52:05,479 --> 00:52:02,189
of the strange history past present and

950
00:52:08,449 --> 00:52:05,489
future on our planet might begin to make

951
00:52:12,910 --> 00:52:08,459
more sense let me jump in because I want

952
00:52:15,799 --> 00:52:12,920
your comment on something because what

953
00:52:17,929 --> 00:52:15,809
everything that you just said ever I

954
00:52:21,769 --> 00:52:17,939
think all of us should take note of

955
00:52:23,749 --> 00:52:21,779
because we are out there looking for

956
00:52:25,459 --> 00:52:23,759
exoplanets we are out there looking for

957
00:52:29,359 --> 00:52:25,469
life we're out there looking for fast

958
00:52:33,739 --> 00:52:29,369
radio bursts this is what we do and yes

959
00:52:38,569 --> 00:52:33,749
earth is unique so you have to think

960
00:52:40,579 --> 00:52:38,579
about what et or other you know cultures

961
00:52:44,089 --> 00:52:40,589
are out there do they're doing the very

962
00:52:47,809 --> 00:52:44,099
same thing they found us already they're

963
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:47,819
looking for those exoplanets too and we

964
00:52:52,579 --> 00:52:49,650
stand out like you say you know were

965
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:52,589
shiny beacon bright blue beautiful

966
00:52:58,370 --> 00:52:56,249
planet right they found us they've been

967
00:53:04,069 --> 00:52:58,380
here they're doing the same things we

968
00:53:07,999 --> 00:53:04,079
are and michio kaku really put this into

969
00:53:11,029 --> 00:53:08,009
context long ago when he laid out I

970
00:53:14,029 --> 00:53:11,039
think it was his hyperspace book he said

971
00:53:16,819 --> 00:53:14,039
let's take the age of our universe

972
00:53:20,179 --> 00:53:16,829
it's about thirteen point eight thirteen

973
00:53:23,569 --> 00:53:20,189
point nine billion light years that is

974
00:53:27,690 --> 00:53:23,579
any of time for there to have been we'll

975
00:53:33,660 --> 00:53:27,700
call it epoch one or universe

976
00:53:36,300 --> 00:53:33,670
pipe one and and if you divide 13.2 by

977
00:53:41,220 --> 00:53:36,310
three or four you can have three or four

978
00:53:45,030 --> 00:53:41,230
epochs each one evolving planets

979
00:53:48,300 --> 00:53:45,040
perhaps life I assume life and then you

980
00:53:51,210 --> 00:53:48,310
get to the second and the first one is

981
00:53:53,940 --> 00:53:51,220
aging into the second generation right

982
00:53:56,940 --> 00:53:53,950
second generation is aging and evolving

983
00:53:59,849 --> 00:53:56,950
and advancing into the third we might be

984
00:54:03,930 --> 00:53:59,859
in the fourth we might be in the baby

985
00:54:08,010 --> 00:54:03,940
category of this big huge complex

986
00:54:12,020 --> 00:54:08,020
universe and therefore the idea that

987
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:12,030
there are entities that were described

988
00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:14,770
assuming that the transcript of the

989
00:54:20,370 --> 00:54:17,609
Ronald Reagan briefing on

990
00:54:25,260 --> 00:54:20,380
extraterrestrials and UFOs in March of

991
00:54:31,020 --> 00:54:25,270
1981 is a Batum correct it was put out

992
00:54:33,900 --> 00:54:31,030
in the full material back in 2007 and I

993
00:54:36,329 --> 00:54:33,910
asked a person in Washington DC who has

994
00:54:37,230 --> 00:54:36,339
been very trustworthy and helpful to me

995
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:37,240
over the years

996
00:54:44,550 --> 00:54:40,240
and asked them to look at the Reagan

997
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:44,560
transcript allegedly with Casey that he

998
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:47,410
appointed as the CIA director Ronald

999
00:54:54,059 --> 00:54:51,010
Reagan went with the CIA NSA dia and

1000
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:54,069
other people who were analysts and they

1001
00:55:00,900 --> 00:54:56,410
went to Camp David and they spent three

1002
00:55:04,349 --> 00:55:00,910
days briefing Ronald Reagan on UFOs and

1003
00:55:08,579 --> 00:55:04,359
ETS and specifically five different

1004
00:55:10,319 --> 00:55:08,589
types now one of the things that is

1005
00:55:12,660 --> 00:55:10,329
really significant in the Reagan

1006
00:55:16,740 --> 00:55:12,670
administration about those five that

1007
00:55:19,410 --> 00:55:16,750
they go over the top one is the even

1008
00:55:23,430 --> 00:55:19,420
that we have all heard about since the

1009
00:55:27,270 --> 00:55:23,440
Betty and Barney Hill case of 1961 they

1010
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:27,280
a parapet as opposed to pointed chins or

1011
00:55:32,370 --> 00:55:29,530
balloon shaped heads or anything they're

1012
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:32,380
pear-shaped and they appeared to be a

1013
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:35,890
what I call a prime intelligence they

1014
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:38,530
would be something that evolved in a

1015
00:55:45,060 --> 00:55:41,890
system somewhere to an advanced

1016
00:55:49,020 --> 00:55:45,070
point that they could start hybridizing

1017
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:49,030
cloning making cyborgs getting out into

1018
00:55:55,410 --> 00:55:51,130
space and moving perhaps point-to-point

1019
00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:55,420
as Einstein says eventually we could so

1020
00:56:01,020 --> 00:55:58,000
they would be a prime intelligence the

1021
00:56:03,810 --> 00:56:01,030
next two on that list that was presented

1022
00:56:08,250 --> 00:56:03,820
to President Ronald Reagan according to

1023
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:08,260
the serpo excerpt transcript were one

1024
00:56:16,890 --> 00:56:12,730
was called our colloid a RCA to UL ID

1025
00:56:21,630 --> 00:56:16,900
our colloid possibly based on the Greek

1026
00:56:26,100 --> 00:56:21,640
word Archon Lord or leader the third on

1027
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:26,110
the list was quad Lloyd that was defined

1028
00:56:37,950 --> 00:56:32,010
as being a hybridization by the even

1029
00:56:42,810 --> 00:56:37,960
crossing a praying mantis insect with a

1030
00:56:46,830 --> 00:56:42,820
lizard reptile and insect the are

1031
00:56:50,610 --> 00:56:46,840
colloid are also described as being a

1032
00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:50,620
hybrid created by the even so out of

1033
00:56:58,970 --> 00:56:54,880
five presented three come from the same

1034
00:57:02,130 --> 00:56:58,980
system to being made by the one prime

1035
00:57:05,940 --> 00:57:02,140
intelligence and that the description

1036
00:57:11,460 --> 00:57:05,950
implies that what the evens have done is

1037
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:11,470
make any and all kinds of androids match

1038
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:14,170
they make them to match certain

1039
00:57:20,670 --> 00:57:18,130
planetary systems and then they put them

1040
00:57:24,270 --> 00:57:20,680
out on different planets that extends

1041
00:57:28,020 --> 00:57:24,280
the evens territorial ability in the

1042
00:57:32,490 --> 00:57:28,030
Milky Way galaxy and beyond and whatever

1043
00:57:34,940 --> 00:57:32,500
they're making then be their allies so

1044
00:57:38,510 --> 00:57:34,950
you would end up with a prime

1045
00:57:43,290 --> 00:57:38,520
civilization that would extend

1046
00:57:46,740 --> 00:57:43,300
territorial reach its power and its

1047
00:57:49,980 --> 00:57:46,750
ability to harvest and interact with all

1048
00:57:53,430 --> 00:57:49,990
kinds of systems by creating life-forms

1049
00:57:54,660 --> 00:57:53,440
that you would own operating control so

1050
00:57:57,180 --> 00:57:54,670
to speak

1051
00:57:59,910 --> 00:57:57,190
and it would keep extending out into the

1052
00:58:03,690 --> 00:57:59,920
Milky Way galaxy well as this is being

1053
00:58:08,730 --> 00:58:03,700
laid out for Ronald Reagan the fourth

1054
00:58:11,789 --> 00:58:08,740
one Hepler lloyd in latin Hepler is

1055
00:58:16,500 --> 00:58:11,799
seven don't know what that means

1056
00:58:19,740 --> 00:58:16,510
but the last one raises the issue that

1057
00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:19,750
comes up over and over if all of our

1058
00:58:26,849 --> 00:58:23,200
contacts with other intelligences were

1059
00:58:28,500 --> 00:58:26,859
all happy and supportive and wonderful I

1060
00:58:31,650 --> 00:58:28,510
think we would have been told that

1061
00:58:34,980 --> 00:58:31,660
seventy years ago in World War two the

1062
00:58:37,349 --> 00:58:34,990
fact that the fifth on this list that's

1063
00:58:41,039 --> 00:58:37,359
given to Ronald Reagan it's called a

1064
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:41,049
Toronto Lloyd and that it is defined as

1065
00:58:49,220 --> 00:58:45,609
a quote this is a quote nasty insect

1066
00:58:52,950 --> 00:58:49,230
close quote that can disguise itself

1067
00:58:57,539 --> 00:58:52,960
camouflage itself as blond humanoids on

1068
00:59:04,620 --> 00:58:57,549
earth is a very eerie thing to

1069
00:59:07,620 --> 00:59:04,630
contemplate now the issue of these of

1070
00:59:11,819 --> 00:59:07,630
this fifth why it fits in to where I

1071
00:59:14,279 --> 00:59:11,829
started it says right in the Ronald

1072
00:59:18,980 --> 00:59:14,289
Reagan briefing that the Tron annoyed

1073
00:59:25,019 --> 00:59:18,990
insects are estimated to be 1,000 or

1074
00:59:27,509 --> 00:59:25,029
more years in advance of us they bend

1075
00:59:30,089 --> 00:59:27,519
space and time they move through space

1076
00:59:33,509 --> 00:59:30,099
tunnels they move back and forth in time

1077
00:59:37,700 --> 00:59:33,519
and this is very interesting that they

1078
00:59:40,799 --> 00:59:37,710
come from a system a planetary system

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Epsilon Eridani that's only ten point

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five light-years from where we're

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sitting right now on earth in this solar

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system ten point five light-years is

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closer than Zeta reticulan I went into

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that is about 39 40 light-years from

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00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:55,420
Earth and that's where the evens are

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01:00:00,329 --> 00:59:57,250
supposed to come from so that would mean

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01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:00,339
our friends the evens are about three

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01:00:07,259 --> 01:00:03,609
times further from Earth than a possible

1089
01:00:08,529 --> 01:00:07,269
potential hostile threat at Epsilon

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Eridani

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further if the system as its described

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01:00:20,529 --> 01:00:17,539
in the Reagan briefing is true they

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don't have or let's put it this way turn

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01:00:24,159 --> 01:00:22,459
it back around I started to say they

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don't have the elements we have let's

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put it the other way

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they have elements we've never heard of

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before that we don't understand that we

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have encountered things that are so

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advanced that we don't know what to do

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we have no understanding and so in one

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01:00:46,900 --> 01:00:44,390
briefing for President Reagan you have

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all of the ingredients of what all of us

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are concerned about today and are trying

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to understand hybridization are humans

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hybrids created by the even it's been

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suggested and that we would be on planet

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earth because we were created

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specifically to be on this planet right

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while others are on other planets

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and that at the first this is the first

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moment the 2018 is the sense that the

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entire planet

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the consciousnesses of the millennial

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generation around the entire planet

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they are irritated with government

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silent policies of denial that insist on

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the old old line that were alone in the

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universe when that's preposterous and

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that where it's almost like being inside

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of a slow-motion revolution in which

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generations and minds that are already

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way far beyond where the government

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policies have been since World War two

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and that when we get that headline that

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we're not alone in this universe we

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never have been then we will be catching

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up to where things should have been

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thousands of years ago let's take a

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break right there Linda thank you for

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01:02:22,210 --> 01:02:21,319
that and when we come back Linda can we

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talk a little art

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official intelligence yeah yeah let's do

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that next Linda Moulton Howe is with us

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this is fade to black I'm yours Jimmy

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Church on the game changer network in kg

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ra the planet you can follow me at a

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church radio on Twitter you can follow

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Linda at earthfiles I'll be right back

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this is fade to black

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with Jimmy Church on the game changer

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radio network and kgr a the global radio

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that can mean increased mold growth and

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report and you're listening to jimmy

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church on fade to black across the globe

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on the GameChanger radio network and the

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one and only kgr a radio the planet

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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welcome back fade to black of meals to

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me church follow me on Twitter at JDO

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can follow Linda at earthfiles right

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01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:43,109
there on Twitter and tonight's we're

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gonna do it all we're gonna do

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01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:46,589
everything A to Z and I want to remind

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01:06:50,210 --> 01:06:48,210
everybody tomorrow night George Noory is

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going to be here Victoria Guevara and

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it's going to be here too as well from

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contacting in the desert we've got a

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bunch of special surprise guests that

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01:06:59,569 --> 01:06:57,300
are gonna do some drive-bys and hang out

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01:07:02,000 --> 01:06:59,579
with all of us but tonight we've got

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Linda all to ourselves and Linda now

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01:07:09,309 --> 01:07:05,160
check this out a couple of days ago do

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my research I listened to a couple of

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developers for one from Google and one

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01:07:18,290 --> 01:07:17,010
from Facebook and they both agreed and

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01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:18,300
made these statements in this

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presentation that artificial

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intelligence is something that we

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shouldn't be afraid of and that we would

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definitely not only have safeguards

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01:07:37,609 --> 01:07:34,710
built into all systems but artificial

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intelligence is only what we put into it

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01:07:44,390 --> 01:07:41,400
as well and it wouldn't advance past us

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01:07:47,420 --> 01:07:44,400
and I stopped I stopped and thought to

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01:07:49,490 --> 01:07:47,430
myself that statement from them scares

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01:07:51,050 --> 01:07:49,500
the crap out of me because they're

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01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:51,060
trying to right they're trying to

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01:07:57,410 --> 01:07:55,530
smokescreen and that and telling us we

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01:08:00,260 --> 01:07:57,420
have nothing to worry about says to me

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01:08:01,730 --> 01:08:00,270
we have everything to worry about when

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01:08:05,839 --> 01:08:01,740
you hear something like that what goes

1240
01:08:09,710 --> 01:08:05,849
through your mind the title of my

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01:08:14,470 --> 01:08:09,720
lecture on Sunday at the upcoming

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01:08:18,590 --> 01:08:14,480
contact on June 3rd and it is is a I an

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01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:18,600
existential threat to humans and it all

1244
01:08:26,329 --> 01:08:21,890
comes from listening and reading a lot

1245
01:08:28,550 --> 01:08:26,339
from people like Elon Musk for people

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01:08:32,450 --> 01:08:28,560
like Robert boström considered one of

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01:08:37,820 --> 01:08:32,460
the 100 top minds in the world having to

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01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:37,830
do with analytical concerns and here

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01:08:46,940 --> 01:08:42,330
tonight what I'll do because it

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01:08:50,890 --> 01:08:46,950
a very short point it focuses down to

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01:08:55,010 --> 01:08:50,900
why I am raising this question and is

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01:08:58,970 --> 01:08:55,020
why what you've just outlined definitely

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01:09:01,220 --> 01:08:58,980
is like a political context that the

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01:09:04,730 --> 01:09:01,230
some computer companies are trying to

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give the world and here is what I'm

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01:09:11,900 --> 01:09:07,920
going to explain started me off on all

1257
01:09:14,660 --> 01:09:11,910
of this and that I hope that a lot of

1258
01:09:18,860 --> 01:09:14,670
people who are listening tonight will go

1259
01:09:20,980 --> 01:09:18,870
to contact and will look at where I am

1260
01:09:25,010 --> 01:09:20,990
speaking on various subjects and that

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01:09:28,099 --> 01:09:25,020
this lecturer on that Sunday it has a

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01:09:32,900 --> 01:09:28,109
lot in it so what I'm going to bring up

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01:09:35,390 --> 01:09:32,910
is now the I guess you want to say the

1264
01:09:38,060 --> 01:09:35,400
moment that I felt that it was so

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01:09:41,180 --> 01:09:38,070
important to get into this and the more

1266
01:09:43,099 --> 01:09:41,190
I've gotten into it the more I feel this

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01:09:45,710 --> 01:09:43,109
is one of the most important subjects

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for everybody to pay attention to now

1269
01:09:56,440 --> 01:09:50,520
yes this is going back to not quite a

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year ago it was in August of 2017 and I

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have had connection with three or four

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really solid important whistleblowers

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for about two years on three of them and

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01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:14,400
about half a year on another and they

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01:10:22,670 --> 01:10:18,960
all have various facets of concern about

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01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:22,680
AI and they are all deeply involved with

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the issue of the alien presence on this

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planet throughout our solar system

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throughout the Milky Way galaxy and

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beyond they come from military

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01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:36,390
backgrounds that are seals and Marines

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they're heavy-duty guys and they're the

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kind of men that when when the

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Department of Defense and the Pentagon

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want the best of the best for the most

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complicated and challenging

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possibilities of investigating or doing

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something

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they want is for these men to get out of

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the military and turn around and go into

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contract in Special Forces

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so that they can be under the leadership

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and control of the Intel agencies and

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01:11:18,220 --> 01:11:15,059
that's the situation okay so this one

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01:11:21,620 --> 01:11:18,230
particular person has given me

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information for about two years or year

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01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:26,340
and a half and when the phone rang we

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don't talk very often and not very much

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and when it does ring with his number I

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pay attention and know that I better get

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a notebook and pen and write fast

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01:11:44,029 --> 01:11:40,770
because we can only stay on the phone

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01:11:49,689 --> 01:11:44,039
for two or three minutes and this is

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01:11:54,020 --> 01:11:49,699
what happened on Saturday August 26 2017

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01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:54,030
the folks he calls he says you got to

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01:12:03,140 --> 01:11:58,250
hear this I can't stay on long quote

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01:12:07,970 --> 01:12:03,150
from my note the top robotics company in

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Japan this week meaning August 2017 for

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robots being developed for military

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01:12:17,419 --> 01:12:14,030
applications to become robotic soldiers

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01:12:19,450 --> 01:12:17,429
killed twenty-nine humans in the lab

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with something that shot metal bullets

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01:12:25,399 --> 01:12:23,090
the scariest part is that lab workers

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deactivated two of the robots and took

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01:12:31,189 --> 01:12:28,320
apart the third but the fourth robot

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01:12:34,399 --> 01:12:31,199
began restoring itself and somehow

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01:12:36,410 --> 01:12:34,409
connected to an orbiting satellite to

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01:12:40,100 --> 01:12:36,420
download information about how to

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01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:40,110
rebuild itself even more strongly while

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the other robots were being taken apart

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01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:47,550
Linda he said this is serious Shi T but

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01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:49,770
you're never going to hear about this in

1323
01:12:57,100 --> 01:12:53,489
the news the robotics company has too

1324
01:13:01,750 --> 01:12:57,110
much to lose and governments want AI

1325
01:13:05,709 --> 01:13:01,760
robotic soldiers close quote and the

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operative word here Jimmy is autonomous

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01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:10,190
autonomous robotic

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01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:13,650
autonomous means that the algorithms

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01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:16,530
that are built into the software of the

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01:13:25,790 --> 01:13:20,690
robotic weapons and robots

1331
01:13:29,390 --> 01:13:25,800
the robots choose what is a threat

1332
01:13:32,810 --> 01:13:29,400
the robots choose when to shoot to kill

1333
01:13:37,010 --> 01:13:32,820
the human is taken out in the United

1334
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:37,020
States currently our law says that's not

1335
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:42,170
possible that a human must stay in the

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01:13:48,919 --> 01:13:46,170
chain of connection and any militarized

1337
01:13:51,890 --> 01:13:48,929
weapon or robot but that doesn't count

1338
01:13:54,290 --> 01:13:51,900
for North and South Korea that does not

1339
01:13:58,970 --> 01:13:54,300
count for Japan that does not count for

1340
01:14:02,180 --> 01:13:58,980
other countries and in fact upon hearing

1341
01:14:06,820 --> 01:14:02,190
deaths and beginning to do research one

1342
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:06,830
of the things that I learned is that

1343
01:14:14,630 --> 01:14:11,850
Elon Musk and 116 AI intelligence

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01:14:17,419 --> 01:14:14,640
experts from all over the the planet

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01:14:19,610 --> 01:14:17,429
they are so concerned about this that

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01:14:22,310 --> 01:14:19,620
this past summer they sent an open

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01:14:25,100 --> 01:14:22,320
letter to the United Nations and they

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01:14:29,229 --> 01:14:25,110
said here is in a paragraph from a

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01:14:31,689 --> 01:14:29,239
letter quote lethal autonomous weapons

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01:14:34,910 --> 01:14:31,699
threatened to become the third

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01:14:37,340 --> 01:14:34,920
revolution in warfare once developed

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01:14:40,450 --> 01:14:37,350
they will permit armed conflict to be

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01:14:44,330 --> 01:14:40,460
fought at a scale greater than ever and

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01:14:46,939 --> 01:14:44,340
at timescales faster than humans can

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01:14:50,450 --> 01:14:46,949
comprehend this is one of the things

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01:14:53,900 --> 01:14:50,460
that Elon Musk keeps going and pounding

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01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:53,910
he says we are already building robots

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01:14:58,550 --> 01:14:56,610
that are faster they can lay bricks

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01:15:01,310 --> 01:14:58,560
faster they can do everything faster

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01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:01,320
they don't need sleep they don't have

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01:15:08,570 --> 01:15:04,170
sick time they are already beginning to

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01:15:13,610 --> 01:15:08,580
accelerate past us and last summer at

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01:15:17,979 --> 01:15:13,620
one of the AI conferences that there was

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01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:17,989
a engineer who showed how a very lovely

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01:15:22,940 --> 01:15:21,090
harmless looking little robot that has

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01:15:26,870 --> 01:15:22,950
been made for doing help in

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01:15:30,170 --> 01:15:26,880
kitchen being able to scrub and being

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01:15:32,930 --> 01:15:30,180
able to even use some kind of a knife to

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01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:32,940
cut vegetables and a screwdriver to

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01:15:39,050 --> 01:15:36,090
screw things if a door was coming loose

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01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:39,060
or a handle was coming off and all they

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01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:43,050
did was a simple hack and this little

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01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:47,370
very innocent looking robot changed in

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01:15:53,470 --> 01:15:50,250
an instant from the innocent in the

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01:15:56,270 --> 01:15:53,480
kitchen - taking a screwdriver and

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01:15:58,160 --> 01:15:56,280
demolishing a toy rabbit that was in

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01:16:00,680 --> 01:15:58,170
front of it because they hacked it who

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01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:00,690
attacked the rabbit instead of protect

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01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:05,130
the rabbit and what they men who are

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01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:08,610
working in these issues like Elon Musk

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01:16:17,420 --> 01:16:14,130
and others they say that we must realize

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01:16:22,310 --> 01:16:17,430
that if we are moving toward autonomous

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01:16:26,810 --> 01:16:22,320
military robots then it takes the human

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01:16:30,020 --> 01:16:26,820
out of the equation that we are going to

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01:16:33,470 --> 01:16:30,030
be opening up a can of worms that we may

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01:16:36,440 --> 01:16:33,480
never be able to solve and for those who

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01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:36,450
would like to see and do some google

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01:16:43,790 --> 01:16:38,810
search and you can see for yourself

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01:16:46,820 --> 01:16:43,800
already along the 160 mile long border

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01:16:50,750 --> 01:16:46,830
between North and South Korea there is a

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01:16:59,210 --> 01:16:50,760
South Korean guard robot it is called an

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01:17:04,850 --> 01:16:59,220
F G R a1 and it is autonomous these SDR

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01:17:06,950 --> 01:17:04,860
a1 they alone decide when something is a

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01:17:11,210 --> 01:17:06,960
threat and they shoot to kill

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01:17:14,510 --> 01:17:11,220
and when you ask how many are moving

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01:17:17,900 --> 01:17:14,520
along that North South Korean border

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01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:17,910
the answer is unknown because the

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01:17:24,740 --> 01:17:21,330
project is so highly classified and do

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01:17:27,980 --> 01:17:24,750
you know Jimmy already the more I read

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01:17:30,230 --> 01:17:27,990
and I'm reading a lot I have files that

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01:17:32,990 --> 01:17:30,240
are about 8 inches high now of things

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01:17:35,570 --> 01:17:33,000
that I have been reading they're talking

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01:17:36,590 --> 01:17:35,580
about when I say they I mean the AI

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01:17:40,290 --> 01:17:36,600
community

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01:17:41,940 --> 01:17:40,300
they're they're approaching governments

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01:17:45,420 --> 01:17:41,950
and political systems and they would

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01:17:48,660 --> 01:17:45,430
like to see robots like the stra one

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01:17:50,490 --> 01:17:48,670
installed not only our national borders

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01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:50,500
like between the United States and

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01:17:59,730 --> 01:17:56,290
Mexico but in Airport can you imagine we

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01:18:03,000 --> 01:17:59,740
go through in airports now in security

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01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:03,010
what would it feel like if there were

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01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:07,210
SGR a ones now in the United States

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01:18:12,750 --> 01:18:09,250
maybe they couldn't function on

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01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:12,760
independent threat to kill but they are

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01:18:20,490 --> 01:18:16,570
already functioning autonomously in the

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01:18:22,440 --> 01:18:20,500
North and South Korean border let me

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01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:22,450
jump in for the audience this is

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01:18:28,820 --> 01:18:26,050
straight off of Wikipedia the SGR a1 is

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01:18:31,470 --> 01:18:28,830
a type of sentry gun a weapon that fires

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01:18:35,190 --> 01:18:31,480
autonomously that was jointly developed

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01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:35,200
by Samsung and Korea University to

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01:18:43,440 --> 01:18:37,330
assist South Korean troops in the Korean

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01:18:45,750 --> 01:18:43,450
Demilitarized ifirst unit of its kind to

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01:18:48,090 --> 01:18:45,760
have an integrated system that includes

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01:18:51,570 --> 01:18:48,100
surveillance tracking firing and voice

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01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:51,580
recognition while units of the SGR a1

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01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:54,010
have been reportedly deployed their

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01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:55,090
number is unknown

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01:18:59,760 --> 01:18:57,370
due to the project being highly

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01:19:01,860 --> 01:18:59,770
classified and I'm looking at pictures

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01:19:03,710 --> 01:19:01,870
of it here and that's about the scariest

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01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:03,720
thing I think I've ever seen in my life

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01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:11,530
well and imagine Elon Musk he did an

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01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:13,930
interview with the National Governors

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01:19:19,860 --> 01:19:17,290
Association last summer in Rhode Island

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01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:19,870
and there were 30 governors and Elon

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01:19:27,990 --> 01:19:23,530
Musk is sitting on the stage and he says

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01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:28,000
I realize that a lot of people aren't

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01:19:35,310 --> 01:19:31,570
going to get this until robots go down

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01:19:39,660 --> 01:19:35,320
the street killing people quote unquote

1442
01:19:43,860 --> 01:19:39,670
run its ethereal and everybody who is

1443
01:19:48,660 --> 01:19:43,870
calling alarm they have great concern

1444
01:19:50,430 --> 01:19:48,670
that if you take the definition of

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01:19:56,180 --> 01:19:50,440
artificial intelligence

1446
01:19:59,250 --> 01:19:56,190
it is code that makes its own code and

1447
01:20:03,150 --> 01:19:59,260
here is another thing that was one of

1448
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:03,160
those chilling things that I've heard it

1449
01:20:13,020 --> 01:20:08,050
was if you have and algorithms and self

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01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:13,030
coding code their whole existence sort

1451
01:20:19,860 --> 01:20:16,330
of like viruses their their existence is

1452
01:20:23,189 --> 01:20:19,870
to exist so that means that you get code

1453
01:20:26,189 --> 01:20:23,199
in artificial intelligence that has

1454
01:20:29,580 --> 01:20:26,199
algorithms that keeps it making code and

1455
01:20:32,700 --> 01:20:29,590
he can make any code they want to keep

1456
01:20:37,229 --> 01:20:32,710
being an independent and in this case of

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01:20:41,340 --> 01:20:37,239
the s you are an autonomous AI well once

1458
01:20:43,430 --> 01:20:41,350
you start getting AI autonomously making

1459
01:20:46,950 --> 01:20:43,440
its own code for its own

1460
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:46,960
self-preservation right where does it

1461
01:20:53,550 --> 01:20:51,130
deposit this is not like the if this is

1462
01:20:55,950 --> 01:20:53,560
not like something that is isolated on a

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01:20:58,260 --> 01:20:55,960
border we're talking about artificial

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01:21:01,560 --> 01:20:58,270
intelligence systems that are going to

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01:21:05,910 --> 01:21:01,570
be communicating around the entire world

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01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:05,920
and that means none of us no human is

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01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:10,290
going to know where the self activating

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01:21:17,700 --> 01:21:13,690
algorithms of the self coding code of AI

1469
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:17,710
are depositing in god only knows how

1470
01:21:26,450 --> 01:21:20,410
many systems for backup

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01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:26,460
the ai's backup code for survival

1472
01:21:32,939 --> 01:21:29,770
there'll be one style a I would be one

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01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:32,949
step ahead of us on every front Linda

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01:21:37,709 --> 01:21:34,330
because that's what they do

1475
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:37,719
and going back to this presentation that

1476
01:21:45,410 --> 01:21:40,210
I saw over the weekend another strange

1477
01:21:51,540 --> 01:21:45,420
comment which was why the concern about

1478
01:21:54,930 --> 01:21:51,550
AI wanting to take over and dominate the

1479
01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:54,940
world and and I thought wait a minute

1480
01:22:00,950 --> 01:21:57,489
you just said it's only what we put into

1481
01:22:02,660 --> 01:22:00,960
it the AI well what is a human every

1482
01:22:05,870 --> 01:22:02,670
civilization

1483
01:22:07,070 --> 01:22:05,880
you know megalo manic dictator they want

1484
01:22:09,979 --> 01:22:07,080
to take over the world

1485
01:22:11,709 --> 01:22:09,989
you know many books and novels in vain

1486
01:22:15,410 --> 01:22:11,719
and have been written on the subject

1487
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:15,420
well if we are the AI that we're

1488
01:22:22,970 --> 01:22:19,050
creating and the AI is us that's the

1489
01:22:26,540 --> 01:22:22,980
first thing on a eyes mind not the last

1490
01:22:29,780 --> 01:22:26,550
it's Jimmy when I was referencing the

1491
01:22:32,150 --> 01:22:29,790
Ronald Reagan Perez currents if the

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01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:32,160
evens are defined by our own government

1493
01:22:38,660 --> 01:22:35,850
as being a prime intelligence that has

1494
01:22:42,050 --> 01:22:38,670
created at least two of the other floor

1495
01:22:46,340 --> 01:22:42,060
on the list beyond the Eden's we're in a

1496
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:46,350
universe where AI or start with prime

1497
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:49,730
intelligence makes AI and then the AI

1498
01:22:56,870 --> 01:22:52,890
becomes something that functions and

1499
01:22:59,140 --> 01:22:56,880
keeps making AI and where there's no end

1500
01:23:03,350 --> 01:22:59,150
to it and then the definition of life

1501
01:23:06,140 --> 01:23:03,360
becomes a completely different context

1502
01:23:08,570 --> 01:23:06,150
because we've been on a planet where we

1503
01:23:10,310 --> 01:23:08,580
have been I've been told that we were

1504
01:23:13,250 --> 01:23:10,320
the only life in the universe and that's

1505
01:23:17,990 --> 01:23:13,260
not true and therefore if we are

1506
01:23:21,370 --> 01:23:18,000
somebody's Android then the preceding

1507
01:23:24,919 --> 01:23:21,380
types Denis salons and neanderthalensis

1508
01:23:27,950 --> 01:23:24,929
they had to have been also developed

1509
01:23:31,130 --> 01:23:27,960
genetically manipulated and it is going

1510
01:23:34,910 --> 01:23:31,140
on throughout the universe then what

1511
01:23:40,910 --> 01:23:34,920
about the likelihood that lots of what's

1512
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:40,920
out there is AI and that the AI world is

1513
01:23:47,390 --> 01:23:43,770
going to make it in space much much

1514
01:23:50,630 --> 01:23:47,400
better and easier than human flesh and

1515
01:23:52,459 --> 01:23:50,640
blood because we are really fragile when

1516
01:23:56,660 --> 01:23:52,469
it comes to what we're up against in

1517
01:23:57,590 --> 01:23:56,670
space struggle and did you see speaking

1518
01:24:01,130 --> 01:23:57,600
of all of this

1519
01:24:03,050 --> 01:24:01,140
did you see the report last week that

1520
01:24:04,459 --> 01:24:03,060
was written I don't have the medical

1521
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:04,469
journal in front of me that it was

1522
01:24:12,530 --> 01:24:07,770
published but 33 scientists authored

1523
01:24:20,300 --> 01:24:12,540
this report stating that octopus

1524
01:24:23,650 --> 01:24:20,310
yeah a lien right the first thing that

1525
01:24:27,440 --> 01:24:23,660
popped into my head was that brilliant

1526
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:27,450
incredible film the arrival yeah and I

1527
01:24:35,740 --> 01:24:30,690
thought yes oh my gosh was that the

1528
01:24:41,650 --> 01:24:35,750
reason yes I made the tentacled eerie

1529
01:24:45,050 --> 01:24:41,660
strange creatures that the lovely female

1530
01:24:48,440 --> 01:24:45,060
scientists or a language expert that she

1531
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:48,450
is the only one who interacted with and

1532
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:50,250
began to understand how they were

1533
01:24:58,010 --> 01:24:55,050
communicating and then yes if the octopi

1534
01:25:00,290 --> 01:24:58,020
on the planet Earth are actually

1535
01:25:04,460 --> 01:25:00,300
transported here from someplace else

1536
01:25:07,460 --> 01:25:04,470
then comes this really really stunning

1537
01:25:09,410 --> 01:25:07,470
mind jerk when you think about the end

1538
01:25:11,660 --> 01:25:09,420
of the film if it was something like The

1539
01:25:14,510 --> 01:25:11,670
Day the Earth Stood Still a CIA script

1540
01:25:19,550 --> 01:25:14,520
put in Hollywood to test audience

1541
01:25:22,250 --> 01:25:19,560
reaction that at the end that the will

1542
01:25:24,230 --> 01:25:22,260
call them tentacled tentacled creatures

1543
01:25:27,590 --> 01:25:24,240
because you only saw them in bits and

1544
01:25:31,750 --> 01:25:27,600
pieces in her illustrations that the

1545
01:25:35,810 --> 01:25:31,760
canticle entities they were

1546
01:25:41,480 --> 01:25:35,820
time-traveling they they were actually

1547
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:41,490
going back in time in order to avert or

1548
01:25:46,730 --> 01:25:44,010
get help for something that would happen

1549
01:25:50,900 --> 01:25:46,740
I think it was a thousand years in in

1550
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:50,910
the future and that I and that they they

1551
01:25:58,210 --> 01:25:54,690
were not here to hurt anybody they were

1552
01:26:01,520 --> 01:25:58,220
here because they were trying to survive

1553
01:26:03,740 --> 01:26:01,530
themselves Rita and I when we walked out

1554
01:26:05,420 --> 01:26:03,750
of the theater I turned to her and we

1555
01:26:07,700 --> 01:26:05,430
were silent I turned to her I said so

1556
01:26:11,150 --> 01:26:07,710
what do you think she goes somebody is

1557
01:26:14,150 --> 01:26:11,160
sending us a message right there

1558
01:26:16,610 --> 01:26:14,160
i odd that movie was so good and

1559
01:26:19,850 --> 01:26:16,620
profound I went and saw it three times

1560
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:19,860
at each time I saw something more I

1561
01:26:25,310 --> 01:26:22,290
really do think it was an extraordinary

1562
01:26:28,580 --> 01:26:25,320
script it stuck out to me

1563
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:28,590
this is more than just a Hollywood film

1564
01:26:35,149 --> 01:26:31,530
and that's why when I saw that headline

1565
01:26:37,490 --> 01:26:35,159
about the scientists saying that octopi

1566
01:26:40,879 --> 01:26:37,500
were something from someplace else and

1567
01:26:43,430 --> 01:26:40,889
giving the reasons why genetically it

1568
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:43,440
that movie just jumped full and center

1569
01:26:49,569 --> 01:26:47,010
I'd have no proof but that is exactly

1570
01:26:52,220 --> 01:26:49,579
what I thought of and it will be

1571
01:26:55,459 --> 01:26:52,230
interesting to see what more all of us

1572
01:26:57,319 --> 01:26:55,469
can learn about the reasons that the

1573
01:27:01,550 --> 01:26:57,329
science scientists are giving

1574
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:01,560
genetically to back up their argument

1575
01:27:09,220 --> 01:27:04,530
and here is another whole huge conundrum

1576
01:27:13,459 --> 01:27:09,230
that all of us face science is

1577
01:27:17,839 --> 01:27:13,469
outstripping everybody's ability to keep

1578
01:27:21,530 --> 01:27:17,849
up if you are an astrophysicist and you

1579
01:27:24,260 --> 01:27:21,540
are focused in one specific part of a

1580
01:27:27,020 --> 01:27:24,270
thousand possible aspects of

1581
01:27:30,069 --> 01:27:27,030
astrophysics you can become an expert

1582
01:27:32,870 --> 01:27:30,079
but you won't be a Renaissance mind on

1583
01:27:37,250 --> 01:27:32,880
everything because there's too much and

1584
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:37,260
it's too too difficult molecular biology

1585
01:27:43,189 --> 01:27:41,130
genetics these are subjects I wish we

1586
01:27:47,629 --> 01:27:43,199
could put our pipes everybody a pipe

1587
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:47,639
between our mind and PhD and so that we

1588
01:27:54,069 --> 01:27:51,690
had a more educated population about the

1589
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:54,079
subjects that are now going to be

1590
01:28:00,709 --> 01:27:57,690
increasingly the relevant they're going

1591
01:28:02,629 --> 01:28:00,719
to be what we have to understand in

1592
01:28:05,359 --> 01:28:02,639
order to understand the planet that

1593
01:28:08,629 --> 01:28:05,369
we're evolving in and it is a big

1594
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:08,639
disconnect now between those who have

1595
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:12,090
knowledge at PhD level and the rest of

1596
01:28:15,709 --> 01:28:14,250
the planet on subjects that are we going

1597
01:28:18,169 --> 01:28:15,719
to become more and more and more

1598
01:28:20,930 --> 01:28:18,179
important we're going to head towards a

1599
01:28:24,500 --> 01:28:20,940
break here but before we get there I did

1600
01:28:26,959 --> 01:28:24,510
want to ask you this and we'll see if I

1601
01:28:29,629 --> 01:28:26,969
can get you to answer this quickly the

1602
01:28:31,790 --> 01:28:29,639
old UFO hypothesis and the way that we

1603
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:31,800
looked at the nuts-and-bolts craft and

1604
01:28:34,729 --> 01:28:33,449
and trying to figure out how they got

1605
01:28:37,850 --> 01:28:34,739
here and that they were you know

1606
01:28:39,050 --> 01:28:37,860
traveling from wherever these vast

1607
01:28:41,990 --> 01:28:39,060
distances in

1608
01:28:45,830 --> 01:28:42,000
craft and where we are today and our

1609
01:28:49,100 --> 01:28:45,840
understanding of travel has evolved so

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01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:49,110
much how do you think how do you think

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01:28:55,550 --> 01:28:51,570
they are getting here is it is it

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01:28:59,870 --> 01:28:55,560
bending space is it is it time travel is

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01:29:02,600 --> 01:28:59,880
it wormholes interdimensional are they

1614
01:29:06,500 --> 01:29:02,610
already here I mean where do you stand

1615
01:29:10,100 --> 01:29:06,510
today on that Lynda all of the buzz yeah

1616
01:29:13,310 --> 01:29:10,110
everything you just said I really do

1617
01:29:15,590 --> 01:29:13,320
think that is true and depending upon

1618
01:29:18,170 --> 01:29:15,600
what time we have maybe I can tell you

1619
01:29:20,930 --> 01:29:18,180
this after the break sure about an

1620
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:20,940
amazing conversation that I had with a

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01:29:27,500 --> 01:29:24,330
man who was working on ring lasers both

1622
01:29:30,380 --> 01:29:27,510
at MIT and wright-patterson Linda I want

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01:29:32,780 --> 01:29:30,390
you I want your connects you just got me

1624
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:32,790
all freaked out let's let's go ahead and

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01:29:37,250 --> 01:29:34,770
take our break so we can do this when we

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01:29:39,980 --> 01:29:37,260
get back our guest tonight Linda Moulton

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01:29:41,690 --> 01:29:39,990
Howe this is fade to black our meals

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Jimmy Church again follow me on Twitter

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Linda at earthfiles we'll see in a

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01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:50,070
second Linda yeah fade to black I'll be

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with Jimmy Church on the game changer

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01:33:01,910 --> 01:32:59,880
Network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're

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listening to Jimmy Church this is a

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televised the revolution is on radio

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[Music]

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01:33:58,649 --> 01:33:55,199
welcome back fade to black did you guys

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01:34:01,410 --> 01:33:58,659
like that painting held that up for the

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01:34:02,969 --> 01:34:01,420
camera that was Doug Taylor and gave

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01:34:07,350 --> 01:34:02,979
that to me this weekend very cool

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01:34:09,839 --> 01:34:07,360
gobekli tepe and he got me he painted me

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01:34:11,910 --> 01:34:09,849
into the pic it's pretty cool yeah at

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01:34:14,250 --> 01:34:11,920
Linda I haven't been to gobekli tepe but

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01:34:18,149 --> 01:34:14,260
Doug Taylor you know Doug he did this

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01:34:20,819 --> 01:34:18,159
beautiful painting and and he knows my

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01:34:23,609 --> 01:34:20,829
love for gobekli tepe

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01:34:25,830 --> 01:34:23,619
and so he painted me into the pic and it

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01:34:27,390 --> 01:34:25,840
just like that cool it's as close as I'm

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01:34:28,979 --> 01:34:27,400
gonna get right now but it's an amazing

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01:34:32,189 --> 01:34:28,989
piece of art I just held it up for the

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01:34:34,259 --> 01:34:32,199
camera yeah I wasn't there but the

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01:34:36,660 --> 01:34:34,269
painting is so good it looks like I

1716
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:36,670
don't want people to think I was just in

1717
01:34:43,319 --> 01:34:41,170
a in Turkey I was not Linda ring lasers

1718
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:43,329
and see you bring up something like this

1719
01:34:48,330 --> 01:34:46,570
we're talking about you know systems and

1720
01:34:51,330 --> 01:34:48,340
propulsion or how they're doing it and

1721
01:34:53,370 --> 01:34:51,340
how the traveling you know et is making

1722
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:53,380
it here through these fast distances

1723
01:34:57,449 --> 01:34:55,690
nothing is close you know Alpha Centauri

1724
01:35:01,080 --> 01:34:57,459
is still four and a half light-years

1725
01:35:03,419 --> 01:35:01,090
away as close as that may be to us it's

1726
01:35:05,399 --> 01:35:03,429
the closest star system but it's still

1727
01:35:08,969 --> 01:35:05,409
important to have light years is a long

1728
01:35:11,009 --> 01:35:08,979
ways and you bring up ring lasers I'm

1729
01:35:15,839 --> 01:35:11,019
really interested in this what did you

1730
01:35:20,189 --> 01:35:15,849
find out yeah if we could move point to

1731
01:35:23,790 --> 01:35:20,199
point with resonant frequencies or space

1732
01:35:26,699 --> 01:35:23,800
tunnels we we could walk through a door

1733
01:35:30,589 --> 01:35:26,709
I mean literally you would be on one

1734
01:35:35,069 --> 01:35:30,599
side of a threshold this earth in this

1735
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:35,079
time and you would be able to program a

1736
01:35:41,580 --> 01:35:38,050
whole different latitude/longitude time

1737
01:35:43,979 --> 01:35:41,590
and resonance and then you would run it

1738
01:35:46,859 --> 01:35:43,989
and then you would just step across the

1739
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:46,869
threshold and you would be three billion

1740
01:35:52,620 --> 01:35:49,690
light years away checking out whether or

1741
01:35:55,830 --> 01:35:52,630
not those fast radio bursts were light

1742
01:35:59,609 --> 01:35:55,840
speed transport for example and all of

1743
01:36:02,489 --> 01:35:59,619
this was laid out to me one of the more

1744
01:36:04,710 --> 01:36:02,499
interesting discussions that I've had

1745
01:36:08,490 --> 01:36:04,720
with somebody who came from both

1746
01:36:11,010 --> 01:36:08,500
science and military background and it

1747
01:36:13,410 --> 01:36:11,020
started I was this is when I was

1748
01:36:16,620 --> 01:36:13,420
director of special projects at the CBS

1749
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:16,630
station in Denver and I had done a

1750
01:36:22,500 --> 01:36:18,730
strange harvest about the animal

1751
01:36:24,390 --> 01:36:22,510
mutilations and was working this was

1752
01:36:27,390 --> 01:36:24,400
like two years later and I was working

1753
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:27,400
on a film about astronaut training in

1754
01:36:35,340 --> 01:36:30,610
Colorado at Martin Marietta outside of

1755
01:36:38,010 --> 01:36:35,350
Denver and I wanted to get the crew and

1756
01:36:41,220 --> 01:36:38,020
myself into what would look like a

1757
01:36:43,290 --> 01:36:41,230
really modern beautiful place or they

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01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:43,300
were making aspects that related to

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01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:46,930
astronaut training satellites and all of

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01:36:53,250 --> 01:36:50,650
that so I had called up as a manager in

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01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:53,260
the CBS TV station working on a

1762
01:36:59,280 --> 01:36:55,570
documentary and I had talked with Bell

1763
01:37:03,270 --> 01:36:59,290
Labs that ball lab sorry that were

1764
01:37:05,580 --> 01:37:03,280
outside of Boulder and said that I

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01:37:08,700 --> 01:37:05,590
wanted to come and take a look at their

1766
01:37:12,050 --> 01:37:08,710
various labs and find a place where the

1767
01:37:15,210 --> 01:37:12,060
crew and I could work and they were very

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01:37:17,790 --> 01:37:15,220
cooperative and I went so I'm not with a

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01:37:22,350 --> 01:37:17,800
crew I'm on what's called a location

1770
01:37:25,980 --> 01:37:22,360
scout and I am though sawing with group

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01:37:28,830 --> 01:37:25,990
they were about six men myself and each

1772
01:37:32,430 --> 01:37:28,840
man was there for various other reasons

1773
01:37:34,650 --> 01:37:32,440
and we were taken around in a clutch

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01:37:36,900 --> 01:37:34,660
because it was a highly classified place

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01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:36,910
and I was not interested in doing

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01:37:42,660 --> 01:37:39,130
anything that would have to do with

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01:37:46,740 --> 01:37:42,670
classes being classified but I wanted to

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01:37:49,470 --> 01:37:46,750
work in clean lab that would fit in my

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01:37:52,650 --> 01:37:49,480
film and so I would have to go around

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01:37:57,300 --> 01:37:52,660
with people who they were taking with

1781
01:38:01,710 --> 01:37:57,310
some orientation and that's where I see

1782
01:38:06,900 --> 01:38:01,720
a badge hanging on a man's jacket and it

1783
01:38:08,700 --> 01:38:06,910
says ring laser physicist and it said

1784
01:38:14,130 --> 01:38:08,710
wright-patterson Air Force Base

1785
01:38:16,350 --> 01:38:14,140
hmm oh I kept thinking and we were

1786
01:38:18,089 --> 01:38:16,360
listening to the people guiding us

1787
01:38:21,330 --> 01:38:18,099
around to the different rooms and

1788
01:38:25,229 --> 01:38:21,340
and we got to a point where we were

1789
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:25,239
asked to just hang out in a place while

1790
01:38:33,149 --> 01:38:29,050
the person who was orienting us had to

1791
01:38:35,910 --> 01:38:33,159
go and check with somebody so I said sir

1792
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:35,920
I'm from the CBS station

1793
01:38:43,500 --> 01:38:39,130
I do documentaries and I couldn't help

1794
01:38:45,149 --> 01:38:43,510
but notice your badge and I just

1795
01:38:48,390 --> 01:38:45,159
wondered since you work at

1796
01:38:52,379 --> 01:38:48,400
wright-patterson have you ever heard

1797
01:38:56,310 --> 01:38:52,389
about UFOs and ETS I asked that question

1798
01:38:59,160 --> 01:38:56,320
and he could have walked away or sneer

1799
01:39:01,770 --> 01:38:59,170
or whatever but I felt that it was

1800
01:39:04,050 --> 01:39:01,780
legitimate because I would explain to

1801
01:39:06,810 --> 01:39:04,060
him that I was asking because I had done

1802
01:39:09,060 --> 01:39:06,820
a strange harvest and I won an Emmy so I

1803
01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:09,070
I had that in the back of my head ready

1804
01:39:21,089 --> 01:39:13,449
to bring out if he gave me criticism

1805
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:21,099
instead he said immediately if you're

1806
01:39:27,089 --> 01:39:24,010
interested in that subject yes I can

1807
01:39:31,109 --> 01:39:27,099
share some information but not here not

1808
01:39:34,109 --> 01:39:31,119
here I'll have to call you so that night

1809
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:34,119
I live down in Littleton and that he was

1810
01:39:40,830 --> 01:39:37,090
up in Boulder but sure enough in the

1811
01:39:44,310 --> 01:39:40,840
evening he called howdy how do you pull

1812
01:39:50,490 --> 01:39:44,320
this stuff off well I don't get that

1813
01:39:54,780 --> 01:39:50,500
call it it is I think people know I am

1814
01:39:57,720 --> 01:39:54,790
honestly trying to understand I don't

1815
01:40:00,720 --> 01:39:57,730
really have much of any other agenda

1816
01:40:03,899 --> 01:40:00,730
except to try to understand what the

1817
01:40:06,149 --> 01:40:03,909
truth is and report it and that if

1818
01:40:10,500 --> 01:40:06,159
people are willing to talk with me on or

1819
01:40:13,919 --> 01:40:10,510
off the record if it's off the record I

1820
01:40:16,410 --> 01:40:13,929
learn a lot that gives me context if

1821
01:40:18,209 --> 01:40:16,420
it's on the record then I'll do it as an

1822
01:40:21,089 --> 01:40:18,219
interview and the off-the-record

1823
01:40:24,330 --> 01:40:21,099
information that comes in this category

1824
01:40:28,069 --> 01:40:24,340
he would be like a Hoover war is very

1825
01:40:31,350 --> 01:40:28,079
helpful and what was interesting to me

1826
01:40:34,050 --> 01:40:31,360
my question to him

1827
01:40:39,149 --> 01:40:34,060
provoked him because some of these

1828
01:40:41,790 --> 01:40:39,159
people they don't they never get to talk

1829
01:40:44,459 --> 01:40:41,800
about any of this right and he just

1830
01:40:45,990 --> 01:40:44,469
decided that if I was working at a TV

1831
01:40:47,970 --> 01:40:46,000
station and I was working in this

1832
01:40:52,530 --> 01:40:47,980
subject matter that he would talk with

1833
01:40:57,689 --> 01:40:52,540
me and to boil down about a two and a

1834
01:41:02,640 --> 01:40:57,699
half three hour discussion he said that

1835
01:41:05,030 --> 01:41:02,650
he knew another physicists knew that we

1836
01:41:09,290 --> 01:41:05,040
were in a universe where other

1837
01:41:12,810 --> 01:41:09,300
intelligences moved point-to-point and

1838
01:41:15,330 --> 01:41:12,820
he used as Wepner has become a common

1839
01:41:19,169 --> 01:41:15,340
metaphor where you if you had I think of

1840
01:41:21,660 --> 01:41:19,179
a napkin and you pick up one point of

1841
01:41:24,750 --> 01:41:21,670
the napkin and you fold it you're

1842
01:41:27,300 --> 01:41:24,760
folding space-time in between and you're

1843
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:27,310
making two points of the napkin come

1844
01:41:33,450 --> 01:41:30,250
together and that is used quite often as

1845
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:33,460
a metaphor and there are other things

1846
01:41:39,209 --> 01:41:36,610
there are space tunnels is the way it's

1847
01:41:44,550 --> 01:41:39,219
described it may or may not fit in to

1848
01:41:48,300 --> 01:41:44,560
the world of wormholes but he went into

1849
01:41:52,350 --> 01:41:48,310
this with first first hand physicist

1850
01:41:56,490 --> 01:41:52,360
knowledge about this concept later on

1851
01:41:59,129 --> 01:41:56,500
about six months later he was back in

1852
01:42:01,020 --> 01:41:59,139
Boulder he was at some kind of a

1853
01:42:04,709 --> 01:42:01,030
scientific meeting and he called and he

1854
01:42:06,510 --> 01:42:04,719
said you know it's really important this

1855
01:42:08,490 --> 01:42:06,520
is really important that I be able to

1856
01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:08,500
talk to you face-to-face I cannot talk

1857
01:42:13,229 --> 01:42:11,170
to you on the phone so I drove to

1858
01:42:17,700 --> 01:42:13,239
Boulder from Denver's about thirty

1859
01:42:20,790 --> 01:42:17,710
minutes and we met on the University of

1860
01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:20,800
Colorado campus and we were in a place

1861
01:42:25,290 --> 01:42:23,170
that would be look just like we were

1862
01:42:29,970 --> 01:42:25,300
just people there on the campus having

1863
01:42:31,500 --> 01:42:29,980
lunch said I want you to know that you

1864
01:42:36,990 --> 01:42:31,510
are in great danger

1865
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:37,000
and I said well yeah I I suspect that a

1866
01:42:44,220 --> 01:42:40,690
lot in my life I'm not dealing with easy

1867
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:44,230
subjects but why do you say that and he

1868
01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:45,090
said

1869
01:42:56,480 --> 01:42:50,250
since I talked with you on the phone and

1870
01:43:00,500 --> 01:42:56,490
went back to my lab and he said totally

1871
01:43:03,570 --> 01:43:00,510
unrelated but what happened has been

1872
01:43:08,250 --> 01:43:03,580
concerning to me that I at least be able

1873
01:43:11,100 --> 01:43:08,260
to tell you he said not long after that

1874
01:43:14,910 --> 01:43:11,110
phone conversation and that ball era

1875
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:14,920
space tour he said I had put in a

1876
01:43:24,060 --> 01:43:20,770
request for all of Nikola Tesla's

1877
01:43:26,250 --> 01:43:24,070
patents including the ones that

1878
01:43:29,220 --> 01:43:26,260
disappeared after he died in New York

1879
01:43:33,540 --> 01:43:29,230
City and he said it be very very

1880
01:43:36,870 --> 01:43:33,550
important to my work in ring lasers and

1881
01:43:39,480 --> 01:43:36,880
he said it had gone on my request and he

1882
01:43:43,170 --> 01:43:39,490
said my classification and my work I

1883
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:43,180
should be able to put in a request for

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01:43:51,890 --> 01:43:46,650
any patent anywhere and get it

1885
01:43:57,440 --> 01:43:51,900
he said the very next morning in his lab

1886
01:44:01,910 --> 01:43:57,450
which was so classified that no one

1887
01:44:04,890 --> 01:44:01,920
except him could just walk into that lab

1888
01:44:08,220 --> 01:44:04,900
everybody else would have to go through

1889
01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:08,230
security phone calls he would be

1890
01:44:15,380 --> 01:44:11,650
notified of anybody who was coming from

1891
01:44:18,330 --> 01:44:15,390
the outside world into his lab and yet

1892
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:18,340
the next morning after putting in and

1893
01:44:24,930 --> 01:44:20,410
submitting the request for the patents

1894
01:44:28,770 --> 01:44:24,940
from Nikola Tesla two men in a

1895
01:44:34,710 --> 01:44:28,780
proverbial black suit white shirt black

1896
01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:34,720
ties short black hair opened up the door

1897
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:38,290
to his lab and come in as if they owned

1898
01:44:46,650 --> 01:44:43,090
the place he was so shocked who are you

1899
01:44:51,450 --> 01:44:46,660
the memory said who are you they didn't

1900
01:44:57,180 --> 01:44:51,460
show him anything they just said we are

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01:44:58,710 --> 01:44:57,190
here to inform you that your request for

1902
01:45:02,940 --> 01:44:58,720
Nikola Tesla's

1903
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:02,950
patents is denied that you are never to

1904
01:45:09,480 --> 01:45:05,890
put in a request for them again

1905
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:09,490
and we're here to remind you that if you

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01:45:16,740 --> 01:45:13,690
want your laboratory to continue with

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01:45:20,700 --> 01:45:16,750
the federal funding that you have you

1908
01:45:23,940 --> 01:45:20,710
will stop any and all inquiries with

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01:45:27,060 --> 01:45:23,950
anyone about and then they use some term

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01:45:29,250 --> 01:45:27,070
that he interpreted as that his phone

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01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:29,260
have been tapped and I had been tapped

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01:45:38,850 --> 01:45:33,610
and our discussion had been was being

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01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:38,860
referenced and he said when you're in my

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01:45:45,150 --> 01:45:41,650
position and you're doing the work that

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01:45:48,450 --> 01:45:45,160
you're doing and people have the ability

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01:45:52,380 --> 01:45:48,460
to come in to your lab without even

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01:45:56,910 --> 01:45:52,390
explaining who they work for he said I

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01:46:00,180 --> 01:45:56,920
know that what I do and what you do that

1919
01:46:03,060 --> 01:46:00,190
there are dangerous consequences and he

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01:46:05,940 --> 01:46:03,070
said I wanted you to know that well what

1921
01:46:08,250 --> 01:46:05,950
it did to me it didn't scare me it may

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01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:08,260
be even more interested in the work of

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01:46:19,620 --> 01:46:15,130
Nikola Tesla that's right I've never

1924
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:19,630
asked you this height there's always the

1925
01:46:28,980 --> 01:46:24,130
first time question have you ever had an

1926
01:46:32,010 --> 01:46:28,990
encounter with the men in black not a

1927
01:46:35,780 --> 01:46:32,020
man I'm not made black but I certainly

1928
01:46:39,990 --> 01:46:35,790
have had threats from a variety of

1929
01:46:43,860 --> 01:46:40,000
various people and I think the biggest

1930
01:46:46,950 --> 01:46:43,870
the thing that really annoys me is that

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01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:46,960
I will have spent a lot of time and

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01:46:53,340 --> 01:46:50,410
sometimes money and travel to set up

1933
01:46:57,120 --> 01:46:53,350
conditions where I can do a recording in

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01:46:59,250 --> 01:46:57,130
which I am totally willing to alter a

1935
01:47:01,410 --> 01:46:59,260
voice and I have done that I've done

1936
01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:01,420
that even in some of my interviews and

1937
01:47:12,020 --> 01:47:05,170
I'm coast to coast and protect always

1938
01:47:14,540 --> 01:47:12,030
protect the source and I will be have

1939
01:47:18,200 --> 01:47:14,550
to use the phones see this is the

1940
01:47:20,330 --> 01:47:18,210
Achilles heel of the American journalist

1941
01:47:24,050 --> 01:47:20,340
who is supposed to be protected by a

1942
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:24,060
constitution and I'm not doing anything

1943
01:47:32,570 --> 01:47:27,690
wrong but my phone has been tapped ever

1944
01:47:37,570 --> 01:47:32,580
since I did a strange harvest and I have

1945
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:37,580
to compartmentalize and and not feel

1946
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:40,770
some kind of fear or anxiety and I do

1947
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:44,970
that pretty well but when I think that

1948
01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:47,010
I've done everything responsibly and

1949
01:47:54,110 --> 01:47:50,850
correctly incredibly and I have dd-214

1950
01:47:56,630 --> 01:47:54,120
and military and a person is willing to

1951
01:47:58,940 --> 01:47:56,640
talk and I will alter their voice and I

1952
01:48:01,850 --> 01:47:58,950
will protect them just to get the

1953
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:01,860
information out and the next thing that

1954
01:48:08,630 --> 01:48:05,850
happens is a communication I am so sorry

1955
01:48:11,390 --> 01:48:08,640
Linda I really want to do this but I

1956
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:11,400
have a family and men showed up at my

1957
01:48:20,990 --> 01:48:14,730
front door and they told me and it's

1958
01:48:24,830 --> 01:48:21,000
always a variation on as one the CIA guy

1959
01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:24,840
that I did the whole 20 part series at

1960
01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:26,130
our files.com

1961
01:48:34,610 --> 01:48:29,970
that I called Cooper as also referred to

1962
01:48:36,920 --> 01:48:34,620
as anonymous that was a 1998 long three

1963
01:48:40,480 --> 01:48:36,930
day interview at his home that I did and

1964
01:48:43,850 --> 01:48:40,490
then right after I left two men in black

1965
01:48:46,070 --> 01:48:43,860
showed up in the supermarket where he

1966
01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:46,080
and his wife had gone to get some some

1967
01:48:54,110 --> 01:48:50,690
groceries and when he walked to the car

1968
01:48:59,270 --> 01:48:54,120
these two men had their backs against

1969
01:49:03,170 --> 01:48:59,280
the driver's window which was like like

1970
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:03,180
pecking order authority right elbows

1971
01:49:06,710 --> 01:49:03,930
crossed

1972
01:49:10,190 --> 01:49:06,720
not moving as he walked up told his wife

1973
01:49:13,430 --> 01:49:10,200
to hold back with a grocery cart and he

1974
01:49:16,580 --> 01:49:13,440
was a very sick man very having to take

1975
01:49:19,250 --> 01:49:16,590
insulin shots every four hours during

1976
01:49:21,950 --> 01:49:19,260
that long weekend that I was doing the

1977
01:49:24,890 --> 01:49:21,960
recorded interviews with his permission

1978
01:49:25,870 --> 01:49:24,900
and his request he wanted to get this on

1979
01:49:29,770 --> 01:49:25,880
the record

1980
01:49:31,750 --> 01:49:29,780
so he's very ill but he had gone grocery

1981
01:49:33,490 --> 01:49:31,760
shopping and he realized when he saw

1982
01:49:36,850 --> 01:49:33,500
those men with her back against the

1983
01:49:38,740 --> 01:49:36,860
driver side of the car that he asked his

1984
01:49:43,180 --> 01:49:38,750
wife to hold off and he walked up to

1985
01:49:47,200 --> 01:49:43,190
them and they said we are here to remind

1986
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:47,210
you that we expect you to be a loyal

1987
01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:51,170
American patriot he had worked for the

1988
01:50:00,340 --> 01:49:56,090
CIA and his cover was in army Intel and

1989
01:50:04,210 --> 01:50:00,350
you are never to talk with Linda Moulton

1990
01:50:06,610 --> 01:50:04,220
Howe again if you want to see your son

1991
01:50:10,990 --> 01:50:06,620
marry and have children Wow

1992
01:50:13,480 --> 01:50:11,000
and those are the kinds of things that I

1993
01:50:15,820 --> 01:50:13,490
don't think should ever happen in the

1994
01:50:21,820 --> 01:50:15,830
United States of America but they have

1995
01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:21,830
happened dozens of times and there's a

1996
01:50:29,650 --> 01:50:26,290
part of me that feels very angry and

1997
01:50:33,730 --> 01:50:29,660
upset over what our country has become

1998
01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:33,740
over what over trying to keep the whole

1999
01:50:37,390 --> 01:50:35,930
world from knowing the truth that were

2000
01:50:40,330 --> 01:50:37,400
not alone in this universe

2001
01:50:43,390 --> 01:50:40,340
right there are other intelligences that

2002
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:43,400
have been here on this planet not only

2003
01:50:49,660 --> 01:50:45,770
for thousands of years but according to

2004
01:50:55,060 --> 01:50:49,670
one di a whistleblower to me Linda we

2005
01:50:58,290 --> 01:50:55,070
have proof that three competing and in

2006
01:51:04,180 --> 01:50:58,300
conflict extraterrestrial biological

2007
01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:04,190
entity groups have been manipulating and

2008
01:51:11,440 --> 01:51:06,650
harvesting and terraforming this planet

2009
01:51:16,120 --> 01:51:11,450
for at least 270 million years and when

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01:51:19,300 --> 01:51:16,130
you own one laughs that sure put when

2011
01:51:22,930 --> 01:51:19,310
you put everything or talking about from

2012
01:51:28,510 --> 01:51:22,940
the current immediate second of tonight

2013
01:51:31,450 --> 01:51:28,520
on May 22nd 2018 in the lens of looking

2014
01:51:33,850 --> 01:51:31,460
back for 270 million years that is

2015
01:51:36,580 --> 01:51:33,860
before the time of the dinosaurs and

2016
01:51:39,190 --> 01:51:36,590
when I said sir that's before the time

2017
01:51:42,420 --> 01:51:39,200
the dinosaurs he said Linda we

2018
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:42,430
have proof that one of these competing

2019
01:51:51,460 --> 01:51:48,010
territorial groups that manipulated DNA

2020
01:51:56,440 --> 01:51:51,470
dinosaurs as an 80 million year long

2021
01:52:00,220 --> 01:51:56,450
experiment when when when the audience

2022
01:52:04,740 --> 01:52:00,230
hears you speak about this I need to

2023
01:52:08,590 --> 01:52:04,750
remind them about some of your

2024
01:52:10,570 --> 01:52:08,600
experiences in the past that you know

2025
01:52:11,830 --> 01:52:10,580
like Kirkland Air Force Base and what

2026
01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:11,840
you went through there and the whole

2027
01:52:20,020 --> 01:52:15,770
dodi period in HBO and and you know you

2028
01:52:22,690 --> 01:52:20,030
you were on curtly interfacing with the

2029
01:52:27,970 --> 01:52:22,700
Air Force about this subject and shown

2030
01:52:29,980 --> 01:52:27,980
documents this is not a joke the you

2031
01:52:34,710 --> 01:52:29,990
know those are your life's experiences

2032
01:52:41,410 --> 01:52:38,320
your integrity but also your tenacity

2033
01:52:43,420 --> 01:52:41,420
and the reasons why you are motivated to

2034
01:52:46,480 --> 01:52:43,430
be the journalist and researcher that

2035
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:46,490
you are today and and I feel compelled

2036
01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:48,650
to go back and remind everybody to kind

2037
01:52:53,980 --> 01:52:51,650
of put it all back into focus you are

2038
01:52:57,250 --> 01:52:53,990
very driven and and you have your

2039
01:53:01,360 --> 01:52:57,260
reasons for that for truth we're

2040
01:53:05,500 --> 01:53:01,370
supposed to be in a democratic or at

2041
01:53:09,580 --> 01:53:05,510
least a republic and that the First

2042
01:53:12,850 --> 01:53:09,590
Amendment is supposed to protect the

2043
01:53:16,330 --> 01:53:12,860
Fourth Estate defined as a free press

2044
01:53:19,510 --> 01:53:16,340
and that was so important in that

2045
01:53:22,060 --> 01:53:19,520
divorce between the United Kingdom and

2046
01:53:25,890 --> 01:53:22,070
what was becoming the United States a

2047
01:53:28,710 --> 01:53:25,900
Free Press because of all the oppression

2048
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:28,720
people forget why did the United States

2049
01:53:34,120 --> 01:53:31,850
where were these pilgrims why they were

2050
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:34,130
leading what they said was the

2051
01:53:42,820 --> 01:53:38,570
suppression of them of the religion of

2052
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:42,830
truth and that this country was to be

2053
01:53:52,430 --> 01:53:47,330
founded on a whole new principle of by

2054
01:53:56,960 --> 01:53:52,440
and for the people not a monarchy

2055
01:54:02,050 --> 01:53:56,970
not a kingdom but a government of by and

2056
01:54:09,110 --> 01:54:02,060
for the people and that those early

2057
01:54:13,160 --> 01:54:09,120
places that fought for that today I'm

2058
01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:13,170
going to I'll do this oppose this on the

2059
01:54:22,850 --> 01:54:16,410
air as a question to the listeners and

2060
01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:22,860
to you Jimmy I think that the United

2061
01:54:33,140 --> 01:54:27,770
States has become a political science

2062
01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:33,150
textbook of a fascist nation in which

2063
01:54:40,190 --> 01:54:35,690
the corporations and the government

2064
01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:40,200
departments are joined at the hip we see

2065
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:43,890
that at every level now you know and we

2066
01:54:47,980 --> 01:54:45,450
really do it and the marriage

2067
01:54:50,930 --> 01:54:47,990
joined-at-the-hip right the marriage is

2068
01:54:53,530 --> 01:54:50,940
getting more and more cemented every day

2069
01:54:56,930 --> 01:54:53,540
and you know this isn't a political show

2070
01:54:58,820 --> 01:54:56,940
but I certainly deal with the conspiracy

2071
01:55:02,900 --> 01:54:58,830
of politics right it's two different

2072
01:55:06,350 --> 01:55:02,910
things and and it's a fascinating thing

2073
01:55:09,890 --> 01:55:06,360
for all of us to witness in real time

2074
01:55:13,690 --> 01:55:09,900
and speaking of that I spoke to you

2075
01:55:15,830 --> 01:55:13,700
about this before but as you know Doty

2076
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:15,840
Richard Doty called in to this show

2077
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:17,730
surprise call a few months ago and I

2078
01:55:21,710 --> 01:55:19,050
called you immediately after that

2079
01:55:23,300 --> 01:55:21,720
happened but he said one thing I want

2080
01:55:25,790 --> 01:55:23,310
your reaction to this before the break

2081
01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:25,800
he said one thing on the show that

2082
01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:28,170
freaked me out which what well it all

2083
01:55:32,960 --> 01:55:30,690
freaked me out first off he's a disinfo

2084
01:55:34,580 --> 01:55:32,970
guy what can you do you know what is

2085
01:55:37,970 --> 01:55:34,590
true and what is not that's the first

2086
01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:37,980
part but he said that out there on the

2087
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:41,250
circuit today at conferences there are

2088
01:55:51,380 --> 01:55:48,810
two two operatives two two agents that

2089
01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:51,390
are that are out there working right now

2090
01:55:59,270 --> 01:55:54,810
and and that I knew who they were

2091
01:56:02,480 --> 01:55:59,280
now I had do you do you trust Doty in

2092
01:56:05,990 --> 01:56:02,490
that statement no I don't trust any of

2093
01:56:07,190 --> 01:56:06,000
the counter-intel people most

2094
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:07,200
everything that they're doing is

2095
01:56:12,680 --> 01:56:10,770
spreading a certain kind of bias for

2096
01:56:16,940 --> 01:56:12,690
people to think through that's number

2097
01:56:23,510 --> 01:56:16,950
one always remember that and that number

2098
01:56:26,900 --> 01:56:23,520
two is to test reactions and the the

2099
01:56:30,230 --> 01:56:26,910
whole thing about all of this it's the

2100
01:56:35,270 --> 01:56:30,240
current wind when you go back to April

2101
01:56:37,310 --> 01:56:35,280
of 1983 I had signed the contract in New

2102
01:56:42,020 --> 01:56:37,320
York City with at the home box office

2103
01:56:45,100 --> 01:56:42,030
headquarters on March 21st 1983 I

2104
01:56:49,490 --> 01:56:45,110
remember it because I love the spring

2105
01:56:51,620 --> 01:56:49,500
solstice and that was that day and I was

2106
01:56:54,590 --> 01:56:51,630
very excited about doing an hour

2107
01:56:57,740 --> 01:56:54,600
production at home box office and our

2108
01:57:01,100 --> 01:56:57,750
working title was UFOs the et factor and

2109
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:01,110
for people who may not be aware I have

2110
01:57:09,050 --> 01:57:06,810
always Jimmy from 1968 graduating from

2111
01:57:11,330 --> 01:57:09,060
Stanford University with a master's

2112
01:57:14,270 --> 01:57:11,340
degree in communication having made

2113
01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:14,280
documentary films for two years and

2114
01:57:21,410 --> 01:57:17,370
immediately went into Los Angeles media

2115
01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:21,420
I was a first a street reporter on

2116
01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:25,370
television at the KNBC in Los Angeles

2117
01:57:31,460 --> 01:57:28,890
and then I was asked to work on

2118
01:57:36,080 --> 01:57:31,470
documentaries there and then I was asked

2119
01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:36,090
to produce a live studio show I was

2120
01:57:42,830 --> 01:57:38,970
doing all kinds of things in Tom Brokaw

2121
01:57:47,420 --> 01:57:42,840
and Tom Schneider they were there at

2122
01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:47,430
that time and I was a first a reporter

2123
01:57:53,360 --> 01:57:50,730
and then a producer at KNBC doing a live

2124
01:57:56,540 --> 01:57:53,370
television in Johnny Carson studio I

2125
01:57:59,600 --> 01:57:56,550
would go running to make sure that I

2126
01:58:02,270 --> 01:57:59,610
would got my time that was allocated in

2127
01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:02,280
the studio that I was assigned at NBC

2128
01:58:08,990 --> 01:58:05,250
and I would run from my fourth floor

2129
01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:09,000
story office with my stopwatch in my

2130
01:58:15,710 --> 01:58:12,690
script in my briefcase over to Johnny

2131
01:58:17,170 --> 01:58:15,720
Carson studio where I would do a show in

2132
01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:17,180
the afternoon and then

2133
01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:20,090
he and his crew would come in in the

2134
01:58:25,840 --> 01:58:23,330
late afternoon and so I went right from

2135
01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:25,850
Stanford University into the biggest box

2136
01:58:32,860 --> 01:58:28,730
possible where I worked I went right

2137
01:58:38,190 --> 01:58:32,870
from school to working at KNBC and in

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NBC Studios so my work in news in

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01:58:45,790 --> 01:58:42,110
documentary in life studio all of it was

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right from Stanford and I was married

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01:58:52,060 --> 01:58:49,790
then and the move from Los Angeles and

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KNBC were I could have stayed for a long

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01:58:59,920 --> 01:58:56,510
time was because my husband wanted to go

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into cable and wanted to go to Harvard

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01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:03,260
to get an MBA he had done Yale as an

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01:59:09,670 --> 01:59:06,290
undergraduate we met as master's degrees

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01:59:13,500 --> 01:59:09,680
at Stanford and then he applied and got

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a entrance to be get an MBA at Harvard

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01:59:20,830 --> 01:59:17,660
so we were at that active formula kind

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01:59:23,710 --> 01:59:20,840
of part of our lives that but I still

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01:59:27,070 --> 01:59:23,720
went from LA while he was at Harvard and

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01:59:30,430 --> 01:59:27,080
I was hired to produce all the medical

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01:59:33,100 --> 01:59:30,440
programming at WCVB in Boston which I

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01:59:35,290 --> 01:59:33,110
did for two years house call with dr.

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01:59:38,710 --> 01:59:35,300
Timothy Johnson he was the ABC medical

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01:59:43,060 --> 01:59:38,720
editor and it was like getting a medical

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01:59:45,250 --> 01:59:43,070
school degree I was in and out of Mass

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01:59:49,060 --> 01:59:45,260
General and Children's Hospital and

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Harvard and all of the time every week

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working with a crew no matter what we

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were doing surgeries or other things I

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did that for two years and that's how my

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husband ended up working for Time Inc

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we moved from Boston to Denver he was

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working for a corporation in New York

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but their subsidiary having to do with

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cable was in Denver at that time I was

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hired to be director special projects at

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the CBS station where they were

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purchasing the syndicated medical work

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that I had done in Boston that was this

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strange braiding and convergence between

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my life and ending up and

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was purchased the medical work I had

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been doing in Boston and so that gives

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you I have always been a mainstream

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journalist trained in the same rules as

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the New York Times NBC CBS and I've

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always worked in that context but when

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the as my career was going along and I

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02:01:01,939 --> 02:00:59,639
was doing documentaries in life studio

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02:01:05,660 --> 02:01:01,949
shows like I had been doing in LA and

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doing it in Denver and all of these

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animal mutilation reports showed up in

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02:01:13,459 --> 02:01:11,099
headlines and I wanted to get to the

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bottom of that just like I had wanted to

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02:01:18,229 --> 02:01:16,050
get to the bottom of any science

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02:01:22,459 --> 02:01:18,239
environment and medical story that I

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worked on right little did I know that I

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was entering a path that would define

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the next 40 years of my life I had no

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idea I thought I was going to be doing a

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documentary that might have to do with

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government contamination of something

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02:01:44,270 --> 02:01:41,610
that was killing these animals and for

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02:01:48,470 --> 02:01:44,280
some reason they had to get a tissue

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02:01:51,320 --> 02:01:48,480
from the animals and it was not more

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than two weeks after deciding because I

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was the manager of that department in

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the station and I'm the one who chose my

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subjects of what I was going to do and I

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had a budget and a crew and all of that

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that I managed and I had an exposure

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02:02:10,070 --> 02:02:08,580
through the headlines and talking with

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some other reporters about all these

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animal mutilations and said I'm going to

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get to the bottom of this and the first

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person that I was advised to go talk to

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was Sheriff Tex graves in Logan County

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up in Sterling Colorado and this is very

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important because I'm a manager in a TV

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station I am producing all kinds of

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environment science political I had done

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a live studio show with one of the CIA

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directors

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having to do with intelligence

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operations I'd done a whole lot of

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different shows I jump in row I have to

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take a commercial break we're right at

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the top of the hour we'll do it all when

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we get back our guest tonight Linda

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Moulton Howe we're doing it tonight a

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our guest tonight Linda Moulton Howe she

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and a little programming note I want to

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remind everybody tomorrow night George

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Noory is going to be here and Victoria

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from contact in the desert is going to

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be here we're gonna have a bunch of

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so don't miss tomorrow night and Linda

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you know I would have had you on

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tomorrow night but I'm just being

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selfish I wanted you I I do my own

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earthfiles YouTube channel broadcast

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which we've been doing for about two and

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a half or three months and it is growing

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like wildfire and I just love doing it

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and when I do it on Wednesday night so

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cross pollinating from you for people

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it's before you come on live yeah I go

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on and 7:30 to about 8:15 and I am

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exploring sort of things that are

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current on my mind or that I'm

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investigating and talking live with an

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02:08:56,280 --> 02:08:53,380
audience that is growing greatly and

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their questions are so intelligent and

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it's like a live dialogue with a huge

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swath of wonderful people every

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Wednesday so that's what I'll be doing

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tomorrow on the earthfiles youtube

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channel but I'm glad we got to talk

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02:09:15,600 --> 02:09:11,650
tonight because I think this is the

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first interview ever that I have gone

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into some of my background at KNBC

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Stanford in the sense that it all was

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weaving in to be just forever a

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mainstream journalist and that that is

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the context in which it was suggested

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that I go and talk with Sheriff Tex

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graves up in Sterling Colorado right and

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he was just retire

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from the sheriff's office and would be

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able to talk with me because he was

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retiring and I set up this meeting drove

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up by myself

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he had transitioned after 23 years John

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Wayne type of that man a few words but

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boy did they count and you would not

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want to cross here of text grave Wow

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I really liked him no no guff no

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nonsense and he pulled out a box of

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about 266 color Polaroids that he had

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taken himself as Sheriff

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and I think that the earliest year on

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those Polaroids was somewhere around

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1971 and I'm visiting him in September

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of 1979 so he had about a decade and he

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let me yeah I asked him I said I like to

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look at things chronologically and so he

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let me use the poor and as I went

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through looking for the very first time

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this is my very first day of interacting

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truth photographs with the animal

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mutilations and I was not looking at

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blood I was not looking at fluid I was

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not looking at track I was looking at

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something that my logical left brain

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could not comprehend what was that

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and as I began asking him questions

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about it all how could a 1,700 pound

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02:11:29,640 --> 02:11:27,760
animal be found on face powder dust that

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was the case and a lot of these it's

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02:11:33,930 --> 02:11:31,150
just the ground there's no not even

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grass it should dust and there's no

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tracks around the animal including the

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animals own tracks but in Ihram is

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missing an eye is missing jaw flesh

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tongue deep within the throat the

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genitals are picking out like with a

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02:11:54,049 --> 02:11:49,750
cookie cutter as law enforcement said

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the rectum and or vagina are cored out a

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photo after photo

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and I was asking him questions as we go

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and eventually he looked at me and he

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said Linda let me save you some time

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the perpetrators of these mutilations

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are creatures from outer space and I

2401
02:12:24,600 --> 02:12:21,579
absolutely vividly recalling as I say

2402
02:12:27,359 --> 02:12:24,610
that I've never forgotten that it felt

2403
02:12:29,759 --> 02:12:27,369
just like I was touching the electric

2404
02:12:31,979 --> 02:12:29,769
wire that my dad had placed around the

2405
02:12:35,339 --> 02:12:31,989
garden when we were kids growing up to

2406
02:12:38,189 --> 02:12:35,349
keep the dogs out right and my brother

2407
02:12:40,890 --> 02:12:38,199
and I would play with touching that wire

2408
02:12:43,520 --> 02:12:40,900
and feeling what electricity felt like

2409
02:12:46,649 --> 02:12:43,530
when it went through us and it hurt and

2410
02:12:49,560 --> 02:12:46,659
when sheriff Tex grave said those words

2411
02:12:52,740 --> 02:12:49,570
I still can remember I can see his eyes

2412
02:12:55,770 --> 02:12:52,750
right now I can feel that I felt and it

2413
02:12:58,290 --> 02:12:55,780
felt like I had was touched by one of

2414
02:13:00,959 --> 02:12:58,300
those electric wires and dad's garden as

2415
02:13:05,390 --> 02:13:00,969
he said those words I wasn't prepared

2416
02:13:10,410 --> 02:13:05,400
for such a sentence and that night

2417
02:13:14,160 --> 02:13:10,420
driving home my entire existence I would

2418
02:13:20,069 --> 02:13:14,170
have been at that point in and I was

2419
02:13:23,669 --> 02:13:20,079
born in 1942 so I think I was 37 I think

2420
02:13:26,359 --> 02:13:23,679
er so I hadn't even thought about that

2421
02:13:37,890 --> 02:13:26,369
how old was I when I was doing that I'm

2422
02:13:40,770 --> 02:13:37,900
so 1979 37 and in my 37 years the sky

2423
02:13:44,729 --> 02:13:40,780
mom and dad said when I was 3 years old

2424
02:13:48,390 --> 02:13:44,739
I started asking for a telescope and I

2425
02:13:51,169 --> 02:13:48,400
had a aunt who who helped me with

2426
02:13:54,560 --> 02:13:51,179
getting a piano and my dad got me a

2427
02:13:58,640 --> 02:13:54,570
reflector telescope but I spent endless

2428
02:14:01,830 --> 02:13:58,650
nights in Boise Idaho with my telescope

2429
02:14:04,649 --> 02:14:01,840
it was like a passion and I thought I

2430
02:14:08,580 --> 02:14:04,659
would be an astronomer and all of that

2431
02:14:09,689 --> 02:14:08,590
is to say that the sky the night sky

2432
02:14:12,959 --> 02:14:09,699
being out

2433
02:14:14,160 --> 02:14:12,969
under the stars night it never scared me

2434
02:14:19,500 --> 02:14:14,170
I loved it

2435
02:14:23,790 --> 02:14:19,510
and then when I got in my car that night

2436
02:14:26,370 --> 02:14:23,800
in September of 1979 headed back to our

2437
02:14:30,089 --> 02:14:26,380
home in Littleton about a two-hour and

2438
02:14:34,080 --> 02:14:30,099
some drive from Sterling I remember

2439
02:14:35,969 --> 02:14:34,090
looking up because sheriff Tex graves

2440
02:14:38,640 --> 02:14:35,979
had said that law enforcement was

2441
02:14:41,000 --> 02:14:38,650
convinced that the only way that these

2442
02:14:44,640 --> 02:14:41,010
animals could be taken

2443
02:14:47,520 --> 02:14:44,650
having the excisions no blood no tracks

2444
02:14:50,910 --> 02:14:47,530
is that they would have to be taken by

2445
02:14:55,350 --> 02:14:50,920
something into the sky and lowered by

2446
02:14:59,250 --> 02:14:55,360
something from the sky and that whole

2447
02:15:02,790 --> 02:14:59,260
drive back I realized I became aware I

2448
02:15:05,729 --> 02:15:02,800
was nervous about the growing night sky

2449
02:15:10,020 --> 02:15:05,739
for the very first time in my life and

2450
02:15:14,969 --> 02:15:10,030
that was a transition that eventually I

2451
02:15:19,799 --> 02:15:14,979
had to deal with myself that everybody

2452
02:15:22,410 --> 02:15:19,809
does when the government is playing

2453
02:15:24,089 --> 02:15:22,420
hardball with people and that you're

2454
02:15:26,699 --> 02:15:24,099
dealing with intelligences from

2455
02:15:29,790 --> 02:15:26,709
someplace else you don't understand and

2456
02:15:32,129 --> 02:15:29,800
there might be a good reason for what is

2457
02:15:35,520 --> 02:15:32,139
occurring on the planet but nobody is

2458
02:15:40,319 --> 02:15:35,530
filling you in and that you want to

2459
02:15:42,750 --> 02:15:40,329
continue be active in a world where the

2460
02:15:47,430 --> 02:15:42,760
night sky does not scare you

2461
02:15:51,169 --> 02:15:47,440
eventually I still remember the time and

2462
02:15:54,209 --> 02:15:51,179
it was in 1983 when I was trying so hard

2463
02:15:56,069 --> 02:15:54,219
to keep things going to do the HBO

2464
02:15:58,830 --> 02:15:56,079
project in spite of the government

2465
02:16:02,399 --> 02:15:58,840
making it very difficult and clearly

2466
02:16:06,270 --> 02:16:02,409
wanting to stop me that I had to come to

2467
02:16:11,100 --> 02:16:06,280
terms with myself I had to come

2468
02:16:13,979 --> 02:16:11,110
I had to come terms with you cannot live

2469
02:16:17,160 --> 02:16:13,989
life in fear it's impossible

2470
02:16:20,759 --> 02:16:17,170
it's billete ting in every way mind body

2471
02:16:23,470 --> 02:16:20,769
and spirit and so you've got to learn

2472
02:16:26,200 --> 02:16:23,480
how to put one foot in front of the

2473
02:16:28,570 --> 02:16:26,210
other and just keep going you're not

2474
02:16:32,640 --> 02:16:28,580
doing anything wrong you are simply

2475
02:16:35,500 --> 02:16:32,650
trying to find out the truth about other

2476
02:16:37,480 --> 02:16:35,510
intelligences in this universe that have

2477
02:16:39,640 --> 02:16:37,490
interacted with this planet according to

2478
02:16:42,490 --> 02:16:39,650
government people who have first-hand

2479
02:16:45,130 --> 02:16:42,500
knowledge and that you have to put

2480
02:16:48,250 --> 02:16:45,140
yourself psychologically and what you

2481
02:16:50,950 --> 02:16:48,260
are still supposed to be a journalist

2482
02:16:53,770 --> 02:16:50,960
protected by the First Amendment of the

2483
02:16:56,950 --> 02:16:53,780
Constitution with the right in a

2484
02:16:59,440 --> 02:16:56,960
government of by and for the people to

2485
02:17:01,480 --> 02:16:59,450
pursue the investigation of anything

2486
02:17:05,020 --> 02:17:01,490
that affects those people in that nation

2487
02:17:07,990 --> 02:17:05,030
and report about it to the best of your

2488
02:17:12,130 --> 02:17:08,000
ability as honestly as you can making

2489
02:17:17,560 --> 02:17:12,140
the pressure affect the pressure of fact

2490
02:17:20,620 --> 02:17:17,570
is my guide always has been always will

2491
02:17:25,170 --> 02:17:20,630
be no matter how strange the subject

2492
02:17:30,400 --> 02:17:25,180
matter and never back off never back off

2493
02:17:35,230 --> 02:17:30,410
because somebody says this cannot be

2494
02:17:38,280 --> 02:17:35,240
pursued and eventually what happened I

2495
02:17:41,980 --> 02:17:38,290
think I have been in some very dangerous

2496
02:17:46,150 --> 02:17:41,990
situations I have had some very highly

2497
02:17:50,050 --> 02:17:46,160
strange things happen that probably were

2498
02:17:54,730 --> 02:17:50,060
in the threat category but I am still

2499
02:17:58,180 --> 02:17:54,740
here and it has been 40 years and it is

2500
02:18:02,560 --> 02:17:58,190
now more exciting because where we

2501
02:18:05,200 --> 02:18:02,570
started this interview we are no matter

2502
02:18:07,420 --> 02:18:05,210
whether the government has the courage

2503
02:18:10,690 --> 02:18:07,430
and it takes courage I guess at this

2504
02:18:13,900 --> 02:18:10,700
point after thousands of years finally

2505
02:18:16,690 --> 02:18:13,910
tell the planet the truth but by God if

2506
02:18:18,790 --> 02:18:16,700
in 2018 they will finally get that

2507
02:18:19,330 --> 02:18:18,800
headline out we're not alone in this

2508
02:18:21,700 --> 02:18:19,340
universe

2509
02:18:24,340 --> 02:18:21,710
and that there's maybe a lot of stuff

2510
02:18:27,190 --> 02:18:24,350
out there that likes us that are our

2511
02:18:30,340 --> 02:18:27,200
allies as the remote viewers say and

2512
02:18:33,040 --> 02:18:30,350
that no matter what else is out there we

2513
02:18:36,400 --> 02:18:33,050
do have allies and that we are on an

2514
02:18:37,020 --> 02:18:36,410
exciting brink where we're going to

2515
02:18:41,560 --> 02:18:37,030
start

2516
02:18:43,871 --> 02:18:41,570
sending things out with lasers trying to

2517
02:18:47,220 --> 02:18:43,881
go faster and faster in the speed of

2518
02:18:51,070 --> 02:18:47,230
light and I think Elon Musk is

2519
02:18:53,860 --> 02:18:51,080
determined to get to Mars and there may

2520
02:18:57,760 --> 02:18:53,870
be a bunch of reasons why they want to

2521
02:19:01,630 --> 02:18:57,770
get somebody on Mars Jimmy so that no

2522
02:19:04,630 --> 02:19:01,640
matter what begins appearing on Mars or

2523
02:19:06,940 --> 02:19:04,640
what the ancient archaeology is on Mars

2524
02:19:09,280 --> 02:19:06,950
that I'm convinced is there they won't

2525
02:19:12,880 --> 02:19:09,290
have somebody like Elon Musk now to

2526
02:19:18,430 --> 02:19:12,890
explain anything that happens there are

2527
02:19:21,760 --> 02:19:18,440
you sitting on and a please answer the

2528
02:19:24,190 --> 02:19:21,770
question are you are you sitting on

2529
02:19:35,890 --> 02:19:24,200
stuff that you haven't revealed and that

2530
02:19:39,371 --> 02:19:35,900
you can't reveal yes I became aware long

2531
02:19:43,110 --> 02:19:39,381
ago that I have to learn how to Mark

2532
02:19:45,520 --> 02:19:43,120
mentalize I have to learn how to protect

2533
02:19:48,610 --> 02:19:45,530
information for which I have no proof

2534
02:19:52,421 --> 02:19:48,620
that I can talk about things in general

2535
02:19:56,320 --> 02:19:52,431
and say I have no proof that I have to

2536
02:19:58,600 --> 02:19:56,330
protect whistleblowers for real so yes I

2537
02:20:00,730 --> 02:19:58,610
do a lot of compartmentalization and you

2538
02:20:03,701 --> 02:20:00,740
know they sit on a tremendous amount of

2539
02:20:06,310 --> 02:20:03,711
information that some right now that I'm

2540
02:20:10,720 --> 02:20:06,320
hoping in the next few months that I can

2541
02:20:14,081 --> 02:20:10,730
go forth but I can say this and I have

2542
02:20:16,990 --> 02:20:14,091
said it on my own earthfiles YouTube

2543
02:20:21,011 --> 02:20:17,000
channel and I have said it in some of

2544
02:20:23,860 --> 02:20:21,021
the conference's the for whistleblowers

2545
02:20:27,640 --> 02:20:23,870
that I mentioned at the beginning who

2546
02:20:31,810 --> 02:20:27,650
have come forth with a variety of I

2547
02:20:33,970 --> 02:20:31,820
think very subsidy pieces to this vast

2548
02:20:37,150 --> 02:20:33,980
chess game that we're all trying to

2549
02:20:40,301 --> 02:20:37,160
understand just in the last year and a

2550
02:20:42,900 --> 02:20:40,311
half to two years here is the common

2551
02:20:50,801 --> 02:20:42,910
denominator and I'm going to say this

2552
02:20:55,440 --> 02:20:50,811
without proof but I think that this is

2553
02:21:02,261 --> 02:20:55,450
solid information and so does somebody

2554
02:21:06,240 --> 02:21:02,271
like the man who the physicist who John

2555
02:21:08,980 --> 02:21:06,250
Brandenburg I wrote a book death on Mars

2556
02:21:12,730 --> 02:21:08,990
when I ran by what I'm going to say

2557
02:21:16,421 --> 02:21:12,740
tonight with him he said absolutely do I

2558
02:21:20,290 --> 02:21:16,431
think that that is true okay

2559
02:21:21,910 --> 02:21:20,300
so for different facets and I'm not

2560
02:21:24,430 --> 02:21:21,920
going into the different facets I'm

2561
02:21:26,620 --> 02:21:24,440
going to give the bottom line these are

2562
02:21:29,310 --> 02:21:26,630
people who have told me in various

2563
02:21:34,450 --> 02:21:29,320
assignments and Special Ops forces

2564
02:21:39,730 --> 02:21:34,460
they've either seen in Antarctica going

2565
02:21:43,690 --> 02:21:39,740
by submarine to a site real non-human

2566
02:21:47,020 --> 02:21:43,700
construction because goes on for a mile

2567
02:21:50,261 --> 02:21:47,030
or two or three Jimmy as if it was

2568
02:21:52,990 --> 02:21:50,271
thought as if it was like a

2569
02:21:56,921 --> 02:21:53,000
morphogenetic field that was it was

2570
02:22:00,910 --> 02:21:56,931
filled with material and becomes a huge

2571
02:22:01,900 --> 02:22:00,920
long form and there's no weld no joints

2572
02:22:04,470 --> 02:22:01,910
no anything

2573
02:22:08,801 --> 02:22:04,480
okay well that this this kind of

2574
02:22:13,020 --> 02:22:08,811
mind-blowing construction and that it is

2575
02:22:17,801 --> 02:22:13,030
in Antarctica one point five miles down

2576
02:22:20,650 --> 02:22:17,811
approachable by submarine and that some

2577
02:22:24,720 --> 02:22:20,660
of these whistleblowers seen with their

2578
02:22:28,890 --> 02:22:24,730
own eyes symbols and hieroglyphs that

2579
02:22:32,740 --> 02:22:28,900
match photographs that they have seen

2580
02:22:36,400 --> 02:22:32,750
again on the backside of the moon where

2581
02:22:41,921 --> 02:22:36,410
there are also the same type of ancient

2582
02:22:45,820 --> 02:22:41,931
archaeology and that photograph taken on

2583
02:22:50,860 --> 02:22:45,830
Mars in the cydonia region by satellite

2584
02:22:54,400 --> 02:22:50,870
or who knows but that they all match now

2585
02:22:58,660 --> 02:22:54,410
if you take that sentence and we have

2586
02:23:01,930 --> 02:22:58,670
ancient archaeology 1.5 miles down under

2587
02:23:04,540 --> 02:23:01,940
ice in Antarctica approachable only by

2588
02:23:07,270 --> 02:23:04,550
submarine and then mind-blowing

2589
02:23:11,530 --> 02:23:07,280
structure under the ice that still has

2590
02:23:16,240 --> 02:23:11,540
energy in it according to them and that

2591
02:23:19,630 --> 02:23:16,250
there is now symbols and hieroglyphs

2592
02:23:22,330 --> 02:23:19,640
to me that's language that's some kind

2593
02:23:25,740 --> 02:23:22,340
of communication that's embedded on

2594
02:23:28,840 --> 02:23:25,750
these structures and it said and if the

2595
02:23:31,690 --> 02:23:28,850
language is the symbols and the

2596
02:23:33,460 --> 02:23:31,700
hieroglyphs match between what's in

2597
02:23:34,809 --> 02:23:33,470
Antarctica what's on the back side of

2598
02:23:36,130 --> 02:23:34,819
the Moon and what's in the northern

2599
02:23:39,849 --> 02:23:36,140
hemisphere of Mars

2600
02:23:40,570 --> 02:23:39,859
I think Occam's razor two plus two

2601
02:23:43,840 --> 02:23:40,580
equals four

2602
02:23:47,620 --> 02:23:43,850
the same intelligence was involved in

2603
02:23:50,559 --> 02:23:47,630
Mars the back side of the Moon or all of

2604
02:23:55,870 --> 02:23:50,569
the moon and the earth and this solar

2605
02:23:57,820 --> 02:23:55,880
system and beyond now how long ago it's

2606
02:24:00,639 --> 02:23:57,830
interesting when you try to do research

2607
02:24:01,900 --> 02:24:00,649
about when exactly was the last time

2608
02:24:04,990 --> 02:24:01,910
that Antarctica

2609
02:24:07,870 --> 02:24:05,000
did not have one point five to two miles

2610
02:24:10,420 --> 02:24:07,880
of ice on it and you will find there is

2611
02:24:13,900 --> 02:24:10,430
a kind of consensus around thirteen

2612
02:24:16,719 --> 02:24:13,910
million years ago and then there's

2613
02:24:20,530 --> 02:24:16,729
another idea that maybe it goes back to

2614
02:24:25,090 --> 02:24:20,540
33 million years ago either of those

2615
02:24:28,360 --> 02:24:25,100
numbers compare in your mind to Lucy and

2616
02:24:32,020 --> 02:24:28,370
Africa allegedly the first standing of

2617
02:24:37,840 --> 02:24:32,030
primate right two million two million

2618
02:24:44,550 --> 02:24:37,850
years ago versus 13 million and 33

2619
02:24:50,820 --> 02:24:44,560
million of provable provable advanced

2620
02:24:54,370 --> 02:24:50,830
architecture that language terraforming

2621
02:24:57,730 --> 02:24:54,380
manipulation on this planet and if it is

2622
02:25:01,090 --> 02:24:57,740
13 million or 33 million years ago and

2623
02:25:04,210 --> 02:25:01,100
it's now one point five miles down under

2624
02:25:08,230 --> 02:25:04,220
ice approachable by submarine but the

2625
02:25:11,440 --> 02:25:08,240
entire world has been denied that

2626
02:25:14,940 --> 02:25:11,450
knowledge and I'm not so sure I'm so

2627
02:25:17,980 --> 02:25:14,950
sure Lucy is even related to us right

2628
02:25:20,530 --> 02:25:17,990
you know I think it's the beginning

2629
02:25:23,711 --> 02:25:20,540
although erectus is the beginning of the

2630
02:25:25,930 --> 02:25:23,721
evolutionary trail to Hollis a PSAP and

2631
02:25:29,740 --> 02:25:25,940
which is us yeah but what I'm yeah I

2632
02:25:32,860 --> 02:25:29,750
understand but what I am saying is us

2633
02:25:34,780 --> 02:25:32,870
you and I our versions of us we go back

2634
02:25:38,261 --> 02:25:34,790
150 thousand hundred seventy-five

2635
02:25:38,890 --> 02:25:38,271
thousand years right well well wait wait

2636
02:25:42,070 --> 02:25:38,900
wait

2637
02:25:45,330 --> 02:25:42,080
the current crow mana and Homo sapiens

2638
02:25:48,370 --> 02:25:45,340
sapiens that's us the overlap

2639
02:25:51,881 --> 02:25:48,380
neanderthalensis which is the previous

2640
02:25:55,530 --> 02:25:51,891
that had a bigger cubic brain than we do

2641
02:25:58,810 --> 02:25:55,540
it was now they're talking about how

2642
02:26:01,450 --> 02:25:58,820
Neanderthals were actually some of the

2643
02:26:06,820 --> 02:26:01,460
artists in some of the caves in the

2644
02:26:09,790 --> 02:26:06,830
France and Spain region they put because

2645
02:26:13,870 --> 02:26:09,800
they now know that Neanderthal graves

2646
02:26:16,511 --> 02:26:13,880
had pollen on them that they put flowers

2647
02:26:21,450 --> 02:26:16,521
on the graves of their dead which means

2648
02:26:25,410 --> 02:26:21,460
to me they had compassion they had soul

2649
02:26:29,171 --> 02:26:25,420
y4i I've always thought it was 35,000 to

2650
02:26:32,410 --> 02:26:29,181
45,000 years that there was a transition

2651
02:26:35,320 --> 02:26:32,420
from the last of neanderthalensis to

2652
02:26:38,440 --> 02:26:35,330
homo sapiens sapiens romanian being

2653
02:26:40,060 --> 02:26:38,450
dominant humanoid on the earth not a

2654
02:26:43,810 --> 02:26:40,070
hundred and some thousand there were

2655
02:26:48,060 --> 02:26:43,820
clearly prior primate humanoids but

2656
02:26:52,270 --> 02:26:48,070
there's a difference between a primate

2657
02:26:55,120 --> 02:26:52,280
humanoid that was Denis Sivan or a homo

2658
02:26:57,940 --> 02:26:55,130
erectus or coming up through the various

2659
02:26:59,711 --> 02:26:57,950
types getting to some of these lines

2660
02:27:01,750 --> 02:26:59,721
that they just discovered and they have

2661
02:27:04,091 --> 02:27:01,760
no idea where they come from you know

2662
02:27:08,261 --> 02:27:04,101
we've had breaking news about very

2663
02:27:10,780 --> 02:27:08,271
strange DNA finds just in the past

2664
02:27:13,961 --> 02:27:10,790
twelve months and then getting up to

2665
02:27:16,120 --> 02:27:13,971
neanderthalensis and the transition to

2666
02:27:20,350 --> 02:27:16,130
crow Manya and homo sapien sapien

2667
02:27:24,400 --> 02:27:20,360
between 35,000 and 45,000 years ago and

2668
02:27:29,350 --> 02:27:24,410
this big question if Neanderthals had

2669
02:27:31,661 --> 02:27:29,360
larger brain capacity and that they were

2670
02:27:34,751 --> 02:27:31,671
doing some of the arts

2671
02:27:38,261 --> 02:27:34,761
in the cave and they buried their dead

2672
02:27:42,900 --> 02:27:38,271
and did so with compassion and

2673
02:27:47,081 --> 02:27:42,910
tenderness why were neanderthalensis

2674
02:27:50,140 --> 02:27:47,091
replaced by the tribal warfare Nkrumah

2675
02:27:54,100 --> 02:27:50,150
and Homo sapiens sapiens did I just get

2676
02:28:01,900 --> 02:27:54,110
shut down by Linda Moulton Howe did I

2677
02:28:07,031 --> 02:28:01,910
just get shut down I guess my point my

2678
02:28:08,831 --> 02:28:07,041
point was that it you know we have Lucy

2679
02:28:11,801 --> 02:28:08,841
but we have all of these different

2680
02:28:14,531 --> 02:28:11,811
examples of things that have come and

2681
02:28:17,261 --> 02:28:14,541
gone and if we go back and look at

2682
02:28:20,261 --> 02:28:17,271
Antarctica 33 million years ago 75

2683
02:28:21,821 --> 02:28:20,271
million years ago octopus now 250

2684
02:28:26,011 --> 02:28:21,831
million years ago just appeared here

2685
02:28:28,390 --> 02:28:26,021
that there are many examples of

2686
02:28:30,911 --> 02:28:28,400
civilizations and cultures that have

2687
02:28:33,571 --> 02:28:30,921
come and gone we have only been here for

2688
02:28:38,140 --> 02:28:33,581
a hundred and fifty thousand years and

2689
02:28:42,341 --> 02:28:38,150
that we hundred and fifty thousand years

2690
02:28:45,430 --> 02:28:42,351
I think this current model is 35 to 45

2691
02:28:48,180 --> 02:28:45,440
thousand years but in the context of two

2692
02:28:51,730 --> 02:28:48,190
million years of evolving and

2693
02:28:54,281 --> 02:28:51,740
manipulated remember yes that that paper

2694
02:28:56,730 --> 02:28:54,291
that Dodi showed me Kurland

2695
02:28:58,470 --> 02:28:56,740
said right in it that these

2696
02:29:01,900 --> 02:28:58,480
extraterrestrials this is the quote

2697
02:29:07,241 --> 02:29:01,910
manipulated DNA in already evolving

2698
02:29:11,051 --> 02:29:07,251
primates to create Homo Sapien that is a

2699
02:29:20,881 --> 02:29:11,061
direct quote Thank You Linda that

2700
02:29:24,100 --> 02:29:20,891
briefing paper the document project

2701
02:29:26,111 --> 02:29:24,110
let's see it was project garnet because

2702
02:29:28,470 --> 02:29:26,121
I remember I said remember your

2703
02:29:35,190 --> 02:29:28,480
birthstone and I was born in January

2704
02:29:39,041 --> 02:29:35,200
project all questions and mysteries

2705
02:29:43,390 --> 02:29:39,051
about the evolution of Homo Sapien on

2706
02:29:45,301 --> 02:29:43,400
this planet have been answered and this

2707
02:29:50,041 --> 02:29:45,311
project is

2708
02:29:52,951 --> 02:29:50,051
I must have read that sentence over and

2709
02:29:57,331 --> 02:29:52,961
over and over as if I were in a mild

2710
02:30:01,070 --> 02:29:57,341
state of shock trying to absorb all the

2711
02:30:04,591 --> 02:30:01,080
implications of those words all

2712
02:30:08,100 --> 02:30:04,601
questions and mysteries about the

2713
02:30:10,711 --> 02:30:08,110
evolution of Homo Sapien on this planet

2714
02:30:13,411 --> 02:30:10,721
have been answered and this project is

2715
02:30:17,701 --> 02:30:13,421
closed and when you think about that

2716
02:30:21,741 --> 02:30:17,711
right now tonight in 2018 the people

2717
02:30:25,470 --> 02:30:21,751
going back to World War two dealing with

2718
02:30:29,730 --> 02:30:25,480
perhaps not even real crashes but like

2719
02:30:32,161 --> 02:30:29,740
Trojan horse planted craft sure in not

2720
02:30:35,131 --> 02:30:32,171
only in the United States but Russia and

2721
02:30:39,091 --> 02:30:35,141
China and Italy and all over the planet

2722
02:30:42,031 --> 02:30:39,101
it actually was happening and then they

2723
02:30:46,140 --> 02:30:42,041
made a decision in the United States

2724
02:30:49,890 --> 02:30:46,150
that was a powder absolutely counter to

2725
02:30:52,831 --> 02:30:49,900
the founding of America we should have

2726
02:30:55,591 --> 02:30:52,841
been told we should have been told

2727
02:30:58,411 --> 02:30:55,601
everything and I understand the

2728
02:31:00,961 --> 02:30:58,421
arguments I understand world war two I

2729
02:31:04,440 --> 02:31:00,971
understand that they were concerned

2730
02:31:07,951 --> 02:31:04,450
about getting the best technology is

2731
02:31:09,961 --> 02:31:07,961
making the best weapons moving into the

2732
02:31:13,081 --> 02:31:09,971
Atomic Age all of it

2733
02:31:16,201 --> 02:31:13,091
that was a testosterone concern and

2734
02:31:20,220 --> 02:31:16,211
probably a legitimate one but at the

2735
02:31:22,980 --> 02:31:20,230
same time if everybody in the United

2736
02:31:25,711 --> 02:31:22,990
States had lived up to what our founding

2737
02:31:30,480 --> 02:31:25,721
was about then we should have all been

2738
02:31:32,911 --> 02:31:30,490
told the truth we have technologies and

2739
02:31:35,671 --> 02:31:32,921
what appear to be and they knew this in

2740
02:31:38,881 --> 02:31:35,681
the beginning in Missouri those two

2741
02:31:40,741 --> 02:31:38,891
first beings from Cape Girardeau in 1941

2742
02:31:42,511 --> 02:31:40,751
I think the evidence for that all this

2743
02:31:46,110 --> 02:31:42,521
happened is huge that's right

2744
02:31:48,621 --> 02:31:46,120
those were clones and those were very

2745
02:31:51,961 --> 02:31:48,631
bright people in the FDR administration

2746
02:31:55,951 --> 02:31:51,971
and they recognized that those two

2747
02:31:58,350 --> 02:31:55,961
beings were clones and that means that

2748
02:31:59,210 --> 02:31:58,360
our government must have been working

2749
02:32:01,460 --> 02:31:59,220
overtime

2750
02:32:05,630 --> 02:32:01,470
trying to understand what is the

2751
02:32:08,330 --> 02:32:05,640
implication of two clones in some kind

2752
02:32:09,769 --> 02:32:08,340
of a craft to came from outer space

2753
02:32:14,530 --> 02:32:09,779
because you know what would have been my

2754
02:32:21,260 --> 02:32:14,540
first question if these are clones who

2755
02:32:25,729 --> 02:32:21,270
made them and this one of the most

2756
02:32:30,099 --> 02:32:25,739
important points when we look at us when

2757
02:32:36,349 --> 02:32:30,109
it comes to DNA where something obvious

2758
02:32:38,150 --> 02:32:36,359
happened well a few times way before we

2759
02:32:40,130 --> 02:32:38,160
had that technology we're talking about

2760
02:32:43,670 --> 02:32:40,140
you know tens of thousands of years ago

2761
02:32:45,740 --> 02:32:43,680
or more at different stages quite

2762
02:32:48,440 --> 02:32:45,750
possibly going back millions of years

2763
02:32:50,540 --> 02:32:48,450
but eventually don't you think Linda

2764
02:32:52,130 --> 02:32:50,550
that there are going to be geneticist

2765
02:32:56,450 --> 02:32:52,140
out there there are going to be DNA

2766
02:32:59,900 --> 02:32:56,460
experts that are going to realize that

2767
02:33:03,110 --> 02:32:59,910
this wasn't a natural evolution that

2768
02:33:05,780 --> 02:33:03,120
occurred and what would they do with

2769
02:33:07,630 --> 02:33:05,790
that information it's certainly not

2770
02:33:11,660 --> 02:33:07,640
going to go public

2771
02:33:15,620 --> 02:33:11,670
shut it down because the government sent

2772
02:33:18,290 --> 02:33:15,630
world war two I made this a subject that

2773
02:33:21,559 --> 02:33:18,300
was not politically acceptable to

2774
02:33:24,559 --> 02:33:21,569
discuss and put a lot of penalties with

2775
02:33:27,440 --> 02:33:24,569
people in government agencies Intel

2776
02:33:29,210 --> 02:33:27,450
agencies and military operations have

2777
02:33:31,309 --> 02:33:29,220
been exposed to all of this these are

2778
02:33:33,530 --> 02:33:31,319
the whistleblowers that are trying so

2779
02:33:39,530 --> 02:33:33,540
hard to communicate such important

2780
02:33:45,370 --> 02:33:39,540
information now and that when you put it

2781
02:33:50,620 --> 02:33:45,380
in a very nice way but in the sense that

2782
02:33:53,690 --> 02:33:50,630
those will say doctors like bronc and

2783
02:33:55,160 --> 02:33:53,700
passing the baton through majestic 12 to

2784
02:33:58,190 --> 02:33:55,170
the people that they were bringing into

2785
02:34:02,840 --> 02:33:58,200
the program always worn strict

2786
02:34:06,110 --> 02:34:02,850
non-disclosure agreements today I am

2787
02:34:10,099 --> 02:34:06,120
working on material that I will be able

2788
02:34:11,850 --> 02:34:10,109
to talk about sometime soon that goes

2789
02:34:16,980 --> 02:34:11,860
into this

2790
02:34:21,751 --> 02:34:16,990
category of is there proof on earth now

2791
02:34:26,940 --> 02:34:21,761
of hybrids in which the genetic material

2792
02:34:31,261 --> 02:34:26,950
is Homo primate or primate human primate

2793
02:34:34,711 --> 02:34:31,271
mixed something unknown and the fact

2794
02:34:38,841 --> 02:34:34,721
that that must be scientifically

2795
02:34:42,001 --> 02:34:38,851
provable and yet we're on a planet where

2796
02:34:42,980 --> 02:34:42,011
scientists know this and they know what

2797
02:34:46,650 --> 02:34:42,990
they're dealing with

2798
02:34:49,020 --> 02:34:46,660
but because we are living in some kind

2799
02:34:55,381 --> 02:34:49,030
of what was it Robert Bigelow called it

2800
02:34:59,491 --> 02:34:55,391
a juvenile taboo perfect he said that in

2801
02:35:02,011 --> 02:34:59,501
the interview with I think juveniles

2802
02:35:03,480 --> 02:35:02,021
taboo was in one of his interviews I

2803
02:35:07,381 --> 02:35:03,490
don't know if it was in the 60 minutes

2804
02:35:10,591 --> 02:35:07,391
when last year but it's a perfect name

2805
02:35:14,430 --> 02:35:10,601
for what has been happening juvenile

2806
02:35:18,060 --> 02:35:14,440
abou we have to get past suppressing

2807
02:35:20,671 --> 02:35:18,070
everything because there was a goal to

2808
02:35:23,791 --> 02:35:20,681
have this advanced extraterrestrial

2809
02:35:27,810 --> 02:35:23,801
technology super weapons be able to do

2810
02:35:31,770 --> 02:35:27,820
super Wars when in fact maybe the entire

2811
02:35:34,921 --> 02:35:31,780
world would stop fighting itself if it

2812
02:35:37,230 --> 02:35:34,931
knew for truth that all of the

2813
02:35:39,720 --> 02:35:37,240
governments that have the bodies in the

2814
02:35:42,720 --> 02:35:39,730
crash in the technology right now told

2815
02:35:46,820 --> 02:35:42,730
the truth the whole planet that deserves

2816
02:35:52,610 --> 02:35:46,830
to know maybe some of the horrible

2817
02:35:55,291 --> 02:35:52,620
insidious tribal warfare would end when

2818
02:35:58,470 --> 02:35:55,301
December 16th you know the New York

2819
02:36:01,320 --> 02:35:58,480
Times the days of disclosure and and and

2820
02:36:04,890 --> 02:36:01,330
all of this blew up in mass media around

2821
02:36:08,011 --> 02:36:04,900
the world every all of those government

2822
02:36:10,381 --> 02:36:08,021
reports that predicted an arcing the

2823
02:36:15,301 --> 02:36:10,391
streets and the collapse of religion and

2824
02:36:17,761 --> 02:36:15,311
Wall Street and governments and movor we

2825
02:36:23,380 --> 02:36:17,771
would lose our minds clearly Linda that

2826
02:36:27,880 --> 02:36:23,390
didn't happen so exactly I mean look I

2827
02:36:30,000 --> 02:36:27,890
have said now for about three years or

2828
02:36:33,130 --> 02:36:30,010
two years for sure

2829
02:36:35,080 --> 02:36:33,140
conferences I'll give you one and it

2830
02:36:39,309 --> 02:36:35,090
makes the point exactly

2831
02:36:41,219 --> 02:36:39,319
I was an evening speaker in Manchester

2832
02:36:45,400 --> 02:36:41,229
England on March 4th

2833
02:36:47,530 --> 02:36:45,410
2017 I and Erich von däniken was the

2834
02:36:52,330 --> 02:36:47,540
second evening speaker he and I were

2835
02:36:55,240 --> 02:36:52,340
featured and we were in a huge Sports

2836
02:36:59,170 --> 02:36:55,250
Complex that could accommodate the

2837
02:37:04,330 --> 02:36:59,180
audience that night I'm told with 2,200

2838
02:37:08,190 --> 02:37:04,340
or 2,500 people and I was first up at 7

2839
02:37:13,660 --> 02:37:08,200
o'clock and I had brought my

2840
02:37:15,969 --> 02:37:13,670
presentation on the binary code that I

2841
02:37:21,429 --> 02:37:15,979
have encountered whether it was in

2842
02:37:24,700 --> 02:37:21,439
Rendlesham with Jim Penniston or stuff

2843
02:37:26,530 --> 02:37:24,710
that it happened in Japan or a very

2844
02:37:28,690 --> 02:37:26,540
person that I was working with who was

2845
02:37:31,570 --> 02:37:28,700
getting downloads in binary and we were

2846
02:37:35,500 --> 02:37:31,580
translating it all of that it was a

2847
02:37:39,520 --> 02:37:35,510
complex program and I wasn't sure if my

2848
02:37:42,700 --> 02:37:39,530
90 minutes would be accessible to this

2849
02:37:45,040 --> 02:37:42,710
broad UK with some European visitor

2850
02:37:50,110 --> 02:37:45,050
audience or not and I was worried about

2851
02:37:52,570 --> 02:37:50,120
it but I did the presentation as I had

2852
02:37:57,550 --> 02:37:52,580
produced it in the United States and

2853
02:38:01,809 --> 02:37:57,560
heads minute and so when I got to the

2854
02:38:05,380 --> 02:38:01,819
end and I just had this overwhelming

2855
02:38:08,620 --> 02:38:05,390
feeling for this big huge audience in

2856
02:38:12,000 --> 02:38:08,630
front of me as by fellow human beings on

2857
02:38:15,940 --> 02:38:12,010
this planet who all deserved the truth

2858
02:38:18,910 --> 02:38:15,950
not lies upon lies upon lies for

2859
02:38:21,030 --> 02:38:18,920
centuries I simply looked out it its

2860
02:38:24,639 --> 02:38:21,040
massive crowd and I said thank you

2861
02:38:26,710 --> 02:38:24,649
Manchester and what happened

2862
02:38:28,360 --> 02:38:26,720
they owners told me they'd never seen

2863
02:38:30,880 --> 02:38:28,370
anything like it I've never seen

2864
02:38:35,460 --> 02:38:30,890
anything like it I never felt anything

2865
02:38:39,599 --> 02:38:35,470
like it every person in that huge

2866
02:38:41,639 --> 02:38:39,609
huge place jumps up at once and they

2867
02:38:44,639 --> 02:38:41,649
were screaming my name they were

2868
02:38:48,570 --> 02:38:44,649
screaming and there was this feeling of

2869
02:38:51,240 --> 02:38:48,580
energy that came on me like a wave from

2870
02:38:56,250 --> 02:38:51,250
this huge audience jumping up screaming

2871
02:39:01,700 --> 02:38:56,260
and what it was almost ever this whole

2872
02:39:06,750 --> 02:39:01,710
audience were Millennials with kids and

2873
02:39:12,229 --> 02:39:06,760
they they were so far beyond the

2874
02:39:15,510 --> 02:39:12,239
policies of denial and lies they were so

2875
02:39:19,050 --> 02:39:15,520
convinced there was this was an audience

2876
02:39:24,420 --> 02:39:19,060
that was saying to me and a huge huge

2877
02:39:31,469 --> 02:39:24,430
ovation scream thank you for talking to

2878
02:39:35,190 --> 02:39:31,479
us without be you know what and and I

2879
02:39:38,969 --> 02:39:35,200
find that now more and more in audiences

2880
02:39:43,469 --> 02:39:38,979
and the communications there are so many

2881
02:39:47,040 --> 02:39:43,479
people were way way past they are they

2882
02:39:49,110 --> 02:39:47,050
know that the idea that we're alone in

2883
02:39:51,660 --> 02:39:49,120
the universe facility that's what

2884
02:39:54,179 --> 02:39:51,670
happened in 70 years since World War two

2885
02:39:57,290 --> 02:39:54,189
where they might have been worried about

2886
02:39:58,769 --> 02:39:57,300
consequences today people think that is

2887
02:40:02,070 --> 02:39:58,779
antiquated

2888
02:40:05,360 --> 02:40:02,080
they've it's silly of course this

2889
02:40:09,900 --> 02:40:05,370
universe has other life in it

2890
02:40:13,969 --> 02:40:09,910
the thank you Manchester I can see it

2891
02:40:18,389 --> 02:40:13,979
now right it was wonderful because

2892
02:40:23,370 --> 02:40:18,399
everybody was united in that same birth

2893
02:40:27,719 --> 02:40:23,380
of yes yes we are in the presence of

2894
02:40:30,650 --> 02:40:27,729
what is real not the policies of life

2895
02:40:32,849 --> 02:40:30,660
yeah I saw the photographs of that and

2896
02:40:37,110 --> 02:40:32,859
it was an incredible that was Steve

2897
02:40:39,510 --> 02:40:37,120
Mehra's conference right oh yeah yeah he

2898
02:40:44,269 --> 02:40:39,520
was there and Batali and all those guys

2899
02:40:47,790 --> 02:40:44,279
and it was it was just an outstanding

2900
02:40:49,200 --> 02:40:47,800
moment I will never forget I'm very

2901
02:40:52,429 --> 02:40:49,210
grateful and

2902
02:40:57,410 --> 02:40:52,439
and where was I I just got back I did a

2903
02:40:59,880 --> 02:40:57,420
presentation in New York City on AI and

2904
02:41:02,429 --> 02:40:59,890
then I was in Vermont and did a

2905
02:41:05,729 --> 02:41:02,439
presentation there I just got back a few

2906
02:41:09,960 --> 02:41:05,739
days ago and when I was in New York City

2907
02:41:14,250 --> 02:41:09,970
a man came up to me after I did my

2908
02:41:18,240 --> 02:41:14,260
artificial intelligence there and he

2909
02:41:21,269 --> 02:41:18,250
took my hand and he had his eyes were

2910
02:41:24,809 --> 02:41:21,279
glistening like with slight tears and he

2911
02:41:29,370 --> 02:41:24,819
said I was in that audience

2912
02:41:32,250 --> 02:41:29,380
on March 4th in Manchester and I had to

2913
02:41:35,130 --> 02:41:32,260
come see you in New York City because I

2914
02:41:37,950 --> 02:41:35,140
was here on a trip and it was like the

2915
02:41:41,280 --> 02:41:37,960
binding that everybody who had that

2916
02:41:45,860 --> 02:41:41,290
experience with me and with Eric that

2917
02:41:49,019 --> 02:41:45,870
night we were bound in that kind of

2918
02:41:51,990 --> 02:41:49,029
amazing weave that can happen sometimes

2919
02:41:55,920 --> 02:41:52,000
in human lives where everybody in that

2920
02:41:59,790 --> 02:41:55,930
you to Juju's place we were all in the

2921
02:42:01,790 --> 02:41:59,800
same page thank you so much Linda and I

2922
02:42:04,590 --> 02:42:01,800
can't wait to see you next week I

2923
02:42:10,559 --> 02:42:04,600
believe contact in the desert is in

2924
02:42:14,160 --> 02:42:10,569
seven days yes I am doing fast radio

2925
02:42:17,939 --> 02:42:14,170
birds I'm doing Sasquatch UFOs and

2926
02:42:21,059 --> 02:42:17,949
animal mutilations I am doing the

2927
02:42:25,410 --> 02:42:21,069
artificial intelligence and I am doing

2928
02:42:30,540 --> 02:42:25,420
military Whistleblower revelations about

2929
02:42:32,760 --> 02:42:30,550
UFOs and how do how does it make you

2930
02:42:36,030 --> 02:42:32,770
feel when he walk around you know a

2931
02:42:38,729 --> 02:42:36,040
ginormous event like contact and and

2932
02:42:41,099 --> 02:42:38,739
people just come up to you all day long

2933
02:42:47,670 --> 02:42:41,109
and and they just want to thank you you

2934
02:42:50,250 --> 02:42:47,680
know how does that make you hug and you

2935
02:42:53,219 --> 02:42:50,260
know what it's the same thing in

2936
02:42:58,830 --> 02:42:53,229
Manchester I experienced it in New York

2937
02:43:02,410 --> 02:42:58,840
City where many people male and female

2938
02:43:06,250 --> 02:43:02,420
both of all kinds of ages

2939
02:43:08,800 --> 02:43:06,260
and they come up and they have tears in

2940
02:43:11,620 --> 02:43:08,810
their eyes this has been happening a lot

2941
02:43:14,830 --> 02:43:11,630
I think if tears in their eyes and they

2942
02:43:17,649 --> 02:43:14,840
take all of my shoulder and their

2943
02:43:23,349 --> 02:43:17,659
varying kinds of thank-yous and what I

2944
02:43:26,769 --> 02:43:23,359
feel is that truth is truth is truth

2945
02:43:29,800 --> 02:43:26,779
Jimmy and for those of us who have been

2946
02:43:34,059 --> 02:43:29,810
trying for a long time to get to real

2947
02:43:36,670 --> 02:43:34,069
truth and then that we are on a planet

2948
02:43:40,420 --> 02:43:36,680
that is as revolutionary and difficult

2949
02:43:43,660 --> 02:43:40,430
as this one is now and people are hungry

2950
02:43:47,679 --> 02:43:43,670
for truth because we are now in

2951
02:43:51,700 --> 02:43:47,689
political systems that every 24/7 cycle

2952
02:43:55,420 --> 02:43:51,710
are lying as a course of their day cool

2953
02:43:57,280 --> 02:43:55,430
in the political realm do you think is

2954
02:44:00,370 --> 02:43:57,290
telling any truths anymore

2955
02:44:02,769 --> 02:44:00,380
and so there is this huge huge gulf

2956
02:44:05,439 --> 02:44:02,779
between people who would like to know

2957
02:44:07,630 --> 02:44:05,449
what is reality and a world of

2958
02:44:10,450 --> 02:44:07,640
governments now and all they do is lie

2959
02:44:15,399 --> 02:44:10,460
and that there is something about the

2960
02:44:18,550 --> 02:44:15,409
tears in people's eyes that humans I

2961
02:44:21,760 --> 02:44:18,560
think would like to feel that we could

2962
02:44:25,120 --> 02:44:21,770
get back to a planet where humans

2963
02:44:28,300 --> 02:44:25,130
respected each other enough love each

2964
02:44:33,580 --> 02:44:28,310
other enough as a species so we could

2965
02:44:37,630 --> 02:44:33,590
tell the truth and that is the huge

2966
02:44:39,610 --> 02:44:37,640
bonding I am feeling in audiences and

2967
02:44:42,309 --> 02:44:39,620
with people coming up and hugging and

2968
02:44:45,429 --> 02:44:42,319
crying in tears they're not tears of

2969
02:44:49,750 --> 02:44:45,439
sadness they are tears of being joined

2970
02:44:53,410 --> 02:44:49,760
by wanting the truth and that's all I

2971
02:44:57,490 --> 02:44:53,420
have ever been trying to give people and

2972
02:45:00,309 --> 02:44:57,500
that it hurts me to my core to think

2973
02:45:03,160 --> 02:45:00,319
that we have a government who thinks

2974
02:45:06,399 --> 02:45:03,170
that people should be hurt because they

2975
02:45:07,929 --> 02:45:06,409
just want to tell the truth that were

2976
02:45:11,340 --> 02:45:07,939
not alone in this universe

2977
02:45:15,900 --> 02:45:11,350
and from my point of view if there are

2978
02:45:18,720 --> 02:45:15,910
white and black negative positive

2979
02:45:20,761 --> 02:45:18,730
angels Devils it reflects everything

2980
02:45:23,790 --> 02:45:20,771
that we've had in our nurture in our

2981
02:45:26,570 --> 02:45:23,800
boxes of religions for a long time

2982
02:45:31,430 --> 02:45:26,580
anyway and when the remote viewers say

2983
02:45:36,511 --> 02:45:31,440
doc you have allies we have friends I

2984
02:45:39,900 --> 02:45:36,521
think that is worth telling the world we

2985
02:45:42,390 --> 02:45:39,910
can handle it and with your help Linda

2986
02:45:44,370 --> 02:45:42,400
it's going to get done and I know you're

2987
02:45:48,450 --> 02:45:44,380
never gonna change but I have to say it

2988
02:45:54,860 --> 02:45:48,460
don't change we need you thank you so

2989
02:45:57,210 --> 02:45:54,870
much to you and all of your audience and

2990
02:45:59,700 --> 02:45:57,220
for all of you who might be listening

2991
02:46:03,120 --> 02:45:59,710
and who get the contact come up and

2992
02:46:06,240 --> 02:46:03,130
shake my hand and Jimmy I'll see you

2993
02:46:09,540 --> 02:46:06,250
there and I'm so glad we did this

2994
02:46:12,841 --> 02:46:09,550
tonight it feels like this is genuinely

2995
02:46:14,400 --> 02:46:12,851
important for everybody to be talking at

2996
02:46:17,640 --> 02:46:14,410
these levels

2997
02:46:19,770 --> 02:46:17,650
now really yeah like I said to you

2998
02:46:21,210 --> 02:46:19,780
through Greenwald a couple of days ago

2999
02:46:26,100 --> 02:46:21,220
breakfast is on me

3000
02:46:30,750 --> 02:46:26,110
all right Marita thank you so much Linda

3001
02:46:34,890 --> 02:46:30,760
safe travels Linda Moulton Howe and

3002
02:46:38,820 --> 02:46:34,900
Earth files.com is where you want to go

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over there checking it out because you

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you just checked out Lindo so do that

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02:47:00,240 --> 02:46:58,180
Linda this is fade to black I'm your

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host Jimmy Church I'll be right back

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getting old has its perks but remember

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wrinkles that extra weight wasn't

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haunting you and you just felt better

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well we can't turn back the clocks and

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3095
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3096
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all right welcome back fade to black

3097
02:51:22,329 --> 02:51:20,239
wheels Jimmy Church Linda Moulton Howe

3098
02:51:27,279 --> 02:51:22,339
there there's a national treasure right

3099
02:51:29,139 --> 02:51:27,289
there great conversation and went right

3100
02:51:31,989 --> 02:51:29,149
through a commercial break but I just

3101
02:51:35,529 --> 02:51:31,999
died there's just no way I'm not going

3102
02:51:36,519 --> 02:51:35,539
to stop a great conversation for a

3103
02:51:41,019 --> 02:51:36,529
commercial break

3104
02:51:42,279 --> 02:51:41,029
but a couple of things and and I'll get

3105
02:51:46,329 --> 02:51:42,289
to some of these phone calls

3106
02:51:50,109 --> 02:51:46,339
I've got enough time for a couple back

3107
02:51:52,959 --> 02:51:50,119
to the cattle mutilation one thing I

3108
02:51:58,569 --> 02:51:52,969
didn't get a chance to get the question

3109
02:52:00,399 --> 02:51:58,579
in but they just stopped and isn't that

3110
02:52:03,539 --> 02:52:00,409
interesting one of the great mysteries

3111
02:52:05,800 --> 02:52:03,549
right and there's been no explanation

3112
02:52:09,609 --> 02:52:05,810
nothing from the government or

3113
02:52:12,639 --> 02:52:09,619
terrestrial laboratories that possibly

3114
02:52:14,529 --> 02:52:12,649
could have been doing some crazy animal

3115
02:52:20,139 --> 02:52:14,539
testing it wasn't just cattle by the way

3116
02:52:23,409 --> 02:52:20,149
but nonetheless just stopped and the

3117
02:52:27,699 --> 02:52:23,419
extra-terrestrial side of it I still

3118
02:52:31,359 --> 02:52:27,709
cannot dismiss for a lot of different

3119
02:52:37,419 --> 02:52:31,369
reasons but they just stopped or have

3120
02:52:39,639 --> 02:52:37,429
they is it not being reported on anymore

3121
02:52:40,329 --> 02:52:39,649
but isn't that don't you find that

3122
02:52:43,329 --> 02:52:40,339
strange

3123
02:52:47,439 --> 02:52:43,339
I do I mean it just completely stopped

3124
02:52:51,340 --> 02:52:47,449
and the the mutilations themselves and

3125
02:52:55,539 --> 02:52:51,350
the horses to remember were real these

3126
02:52:58,779 --> 02:52:55,549
were real but they just stopped and the

3127
02:53:00,639 --> 02:52:58,789
when you look at the photographs you can

3128
02:53:02,019 --> 02:53:00,649
read about the details of and so forth

3129
02:53:06,899 --> 02:53:02,029
when you look at the photographs you

3130
02:53:11,050 --> 02:53:06,909
just have to stop and question you know

3131
02:53:13,569 --> 02:53:11,060
it's not animals doing it okay so that

3132
02:53:18,130 --> 02:53:13,579
that part of it is is off of the table

3133
02:53:21,069 --> 02:53:18,140
so the question is who and why it's a

3134
02:53:24,240 --> 02:53:21,079
fascinating part of history in this in

3135
02:53:26,640 --> 02:53:24,250
this country one that Linda was

3136
02:53:29,430 --> 02:53:26,650
a big part of in investigating and

3137
02:53:33,570 --> 02:53:29,440
researching but I'm not so sure if we

3138
02:53:36,390 --> 02:53:33,580
ever got to the answer and I would be

3139
02:53:39,600 --> 02:53:36,400
cool with it I guess

3140
02:53:42,660 --> 02:53:39,610
if there was some resolution where you

3141
02:53:47,400 --> 02:53:42,670
know some laboratory or you know Sandia

3142
02:53:49,950 --> 02:53:47,410
or whoever was responsible for this as

3143
02:53:52,920 --> 02:53:49,960
far as a government research lab side of

3144
02:53:55,320 --> 02:53:52,930
things or or something else or the

3145
02:53:56,820 --> 02:53:55,330
military came forward and said okay this

3146
02:53:59,310 --> 02:53:56,830
is what was going on this is how we did

3147
02:54:01,110 --> 02:53:59,320
it this is why we did it and and it was

3148
02:54:03,150 --> 02:54:01,120
weapons testing whatever it is I don't

3149
02:54:08,310 --> 02:54:03,160
know I don't know radiation I don't know

3150
02:54:11,670 --> 02:54:08,320
but that didn't happen so the et side of

3151
02:54:15,780 --> 02:54:11,680
it is is still on the table and I know

3152
02:54:18,540 --> 02:54:15,790
how humans when we go into the jungle or

3153
02:54:20,940 --> 02:54:18,550
we go out and and we find the new

3154
02:54:22,890 --> 02:54:20,950
species or whatever you know it's bagged

3155
02:54:25,860 --> 02:54:22,900
and tagged and grab it and come back and

3156
02:54:27,690 --> 02:54:25,870
research and do the analysis on it well

3157
02:54:30,930 --> 02:54:27,700
if et was here on this planet they would

3158
02:54:33,990 --> 02:54:30,940
do this very same thing absolutely do

3159
02:54:36,810 --> 02:54:34,000
the very same thing so the the et side

3160
02:54:39,420 --> 02:54:36,820
of it I'm okay with I'm completely okay

3161
02:54:42,660 --> 02:54:39,430
and I wouldn't I wouldn't doubt that

3162
02:54:45,060 --> 02:54:42,670
that was actually the reason and that is

3163
02:54:48,060 --> 02:54:45,070
why the government hasn't come forward

3164
02:54:49,920 --> 02:54:48,070
stating otherwise I always found that

3165
02:54:51,120 --> 02:54:49,930
interesting let's go to the phones hi

3166
02:54:53,790 --> 02:54:51,130
you're live on fade to black who's

3167
02:54:56,130 --> 02:54:53,800
calling oh yeah Jimmy

3168
02:54:59,910 --> 02:54:56,140
good evening by the way this is though

3169
02:55:02,100 --> 02:54:59,920
my film and yeah well there was one

3170
02:55:06,200 --> 02:55:02,110
thing that she kind of triggered me on

3171
02:55:10,740 --> 02:55:06,210
and I guess I'll bring it up is the

3172
02:55:13,050 --> 02:55:10,750
Neanderthal thing and Homo Sapien uh-huh

3173
02:55:16,520 --> 02:55:13,060
and yeah we would cook her coke the

3174
02:55:20,400 --> 02:55:16,530
current with neon saw we bred with him

3175
02:55:24,320 --> 02:55:20,410
were I mean we were here at the same

3176
02:55:28,140 --> 02:55:24,330
time they were but I'm trying to say

3177
02:55:31,590 --> 02:55:28,150
well okay I don't get this link she's

3178
02:55:35,770 --> 02:55:31,600
taking this is old school science here

3179
02:55:41,080 --> 02:55:35,780
that she's fighting yes yes and

3180
02:55:46,360 --> 02:55:41,090
and her I don't necessarily well I think

3181
02:55:48,820 --> 02:55:46,370
we kind of are how do I say this our

3182
02:55:51,790 --> 02:55:48,830
theories are a hypothesis sort of

3183
02:55:55,630 --> 02:55:51,800
overlap there but and I know that there

3184
02:55:58,390 --> 02:55:55,640
has been some recent DNA evidence that

3185
02:56:04,990 --> 02:55:58,400
has come forward that shows the

3186
02:56:07,860 --> 02:56:05,000
possibility that we did breed although

3187
02:56:12,910 --> 02:56:07,870
very briefly with cro-magnon and

3188
02:56:14,500 --> 02:56:12,920
Neanderthal but that evidence is is new

3189
02:56:16,870 --> 02:56:14,510
and it isn't a hundred percent

3190
02:56:20,140 --> 02:56:16,880
conclusive yet so there's that part of

3191
02:56:22,960 --> 02:56:20,150
it but the other thing that she brought

3192
02:56:26,680 --> 02:56:22,970
up which to me is mind-blowing and we

3193
02:56:29,590 --> 02:56:26,690
need to understand this we're talking

3194
02:56:31,720 --> 02:56:29,600
about just thirty-five thousand years

3195
02:56:33,220 --> 02:56:31,730
ago thirty five thousand years ago

3196
02:56:40,600 --> 02:56:33,230
Neanderthal was walking around

3197
02:56:43,930 --> 02:56:40,610
cro-magnon and the last example that we

3198
02:56:50,500 --> 02:56:43,940
have of them is about that yeah about

3199
02:56:53,730 --> 02:56:50,510
that time and we us you and I this

3200
02:56:58,600 --> 02:56:53,740
latest iteration of Homo sapiens

3201
02:57:01,120 --> 02:56:58,610
appeared around 150 to 175 thousand

3202
02:57:03,340 --> 02:57:01,130
years ago you can maybe push it back to

3203
02:57:08,320 --> 02:57:03,350
about two hundred thousand years ago but

3204
02:57:11,350 --> 02:57:08,330
the mitochondria is three thousand well

3205
02:57:16,450 --> 02:57:11,360
okay that that surfaced recently here in

3206
02:57:18,970 --> 02:57:16,460
in in San Diego but that that that is

3207
02:57:21,970 --> 02:57:18,980
only one example of that so it's not

3208
02:57:24,390 --> 02:57:21,980
nonetheless I don't care if it's three

3209
02:57:28,030 --> 02:57:24,400
hundred thousand years ago we still

3210
02:57:31,870 --> 02:57:28,040
appeared we need I need to make that

3211
02:57:36,390 --> 02:57:31,880
clear right we just appeared with our

3212
02:57:40,900 --> 02:57:36,400
foreheads our skin our hair our speech

3213
02:57:43,870 --> 02:57:40,910
our physique our noses our giance

3214
02:57:46,510 --> 02:57:43,880
everything that is about us now there

3215
02:57:48,689 --> 02:57:46,520
was no evolutionary process that would

3216
02:57:52,829 --> 02:57:48,699
take millions of years there is

3217
02:57:56,609 --> 02:57:52,839
Oh evidence right there is no missing

3218
02:57:59,939 --> 02:57:56,619
link and so that is that's the one thing

3219
02:58:03,859 --> 02:57:59,949
that I will continue until that evidence

3220
02:58:07,229 --> 02:58:03,869
appears and it is clearly not out there

3221
02:58:11,550 --> 02:58:07,239
so we just appeared here and I think

3222
02:58:14,729 --> 02:58:11,560
that our DNA was altered you know either

3223
02:58:18,929 --> 02:58:14,739
either we I can't say that I can't may

3224
02:58:21,719 --> 02:58:18,939
say that right there's there's there is

3225
02:58:24,899 --> 02:58:21,729
no solid explanation for any of it

3226
02:58:28,340 --> 02:58:24,909
unless we just were planted here like

3227
02:58:33,300 --> 02:58:28,350
the octopus right and we just arrived

3228
02:58:37,199 --> 02:58:33,310
but I don't it's a mind-blowing part of

3229
02:58:37,800 --> 02:58:37,209
our history that we us as we are right

3230
02:58:41,729 --> 02:58:37,810
now

3231
02:58:44,189 --> 02:58:41,739
we just appeared in the big evolutionary

3232
02:58:46,709 --> 02:58:44,199
span of things of four and a half

3233
02:58:50,699 --> 02:58:46,719
billion years on this planet the last

3234
02:58:52,649 --> 02:58:50,709
little tick of time this last hundred

3235
02:58:56,609 --> 02:58:52,659
thousand years or so we just appeared

3236
02:58:58,649 --> 02:58:56,619
and it's just a blip on the radar and I

3237
02:59:01,679 --> 02:58:58,659
haven't heard any satisfactory

3238
02:59:04,019 --> 02:59:01,689
explanations for that you know you go

3239
02:59:06,829 --> 02:59:04,029
and you look at Neanderthal or you look

3240
02:59:10,949 --> 02:59:06,839
at cro-magnon they take a close look

3241
02:59:13,229 --> 02:59:10,959
that ain't us and if a cro-magnon walked

3242
02:59:16,529 --> 02:59:13,239
in the room right now with you Phil and

3243
02:59:23,189 --> 02:59:16,539
you look you would scream you would

3244
02:59:26,159 --> 02:59:23,199
freak you don't you know just imagine

3245
02:59:29,369 --> 02:59:26,169
just imagine this though this is and go

3246
02:59:32,909 --> 02:59:29,379
look at any skeletal remains look at any

3247
02:59:35,309 --> 02:59:32,919
fossils the top of your eyebrow touch it

3248
02:59:38,340 --> 02:59:35,319
right with your finger that is the top

3249
02:59:43,199 --> 02:59:38,350
of his head or her head it goes straight

3250
02:59:49,019 --> 02:59:43,209
back straight back for heads that we

3251
02:59:51,630 --> 02:59:49,029
have now are just us it's a Kree you

3252
02:59:54,239 --> 02:59:51,640
know you look at Lucy or you look at any

3253
02:59:56,309 --> 02:59:54,249
other examples and you look at look at

3254
03:00:00,239 --> 02:59:56,319
that and just imagine that walking

3255
03:00:01,140 --> 03:00:00,249
around today know that we're not related

3256
03:00:04,190 --> 03:00:01,150
I

3257
03:00:07,080 --> 03:00:04,200
we're not just because it walks upright

3258
03:00:08,130 --> 03:00:07,090
doesn't mean that we are related it's

3259
03:00:12,060 --> 03:00:08,140
two different things

3260
03:00:14,100 --> 03:00:12,070
so that that's my opinion and until look

3261
03:00:16,230 --> 03:00:14,110
every time I speak about this I get the

3262
03:00:18,450 --> 03:00:16,240
email Church you don't know what you're

3263
03:00:22,110 --> 03:00:18,460
talking about well okay fine

3264
03:00:25,830 --> 03:00:22,120
show me the missing link

3265
03:00:28,650 --> 03:00:25,840
show me the evolutionary process show me

3266
03:00:31,740 --> 03:00:28,660
what came before us and then we're good

3267
03:00:39,690 --> 03:00:31,750
we're good I'll change my view I want to

3268
03:00:41,670 --> 03:00:39,700
learn you know so there you go it's not

3269
03:00:43,620 --> 03:00:41,680
well not yet at least

3270
03:00:45,870 --> 03:00:43,630
Phil thank you so much my friend and

3271
03:00:48,120 --> 03:00:45,880
we'll see you tomorrow night all right

3272
03:00:50,820 --> 03:00:48,130
take care of it thank you you too Phil

3273
03:00:53,490 --> 03:00:50,830
thank you so much and when I gotta get

3274
03:00:56,400 --> 03:00:53,500
out of here I gotta thank Linda Moulton

3275
03:00:57,780 --> 03:00:56,410
Howe just just a great conversation

3276
03:01:00,330 --> 03:00:57,790
tonight it's always great when she's on

3277
03:01:02,910 --> 03:01:00,340
it was it was just too long wasn't it

3278
03:01:05,520 --> 03:01:02,920
all right a two-box executive producers

3279
03:01:08,160 --> 03:01:05,530
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03:01:43,670 --> 03:01:41,080
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3294
03:01:46,500 --> 03:01:43,680
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3295
03:01:49,380 --> 03:01:46,510
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3296
03:01:52,500 --> 03:01:49,390
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3297
03:01:56,580 --> 03:01:52,510
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3298
03:02:15,360 --> 03:01:56,590
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